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re: Arkansas father charged with murder after shooting 67-year-old man that had is daughter
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:21 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:21 pm to Vacherie Saint
He’ll keep nitpicking and will do whatever it takes to continue to paint the dad in a negative light. He should volunteer to prosecute the father. I’m sure it would be the highlight of his career to try to imprison this man.
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:22 pm to JiminyCricket
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He should volunteer to prosecute the father. I’m sure it would be the highlight of his career to try to imprison this man.
In this thread I said I'd defend him if I could, and even give him a discount considering the underlying scenario.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:30 pm to JiminyCricket
Making the self defense case could be pretty simple.
It’s Arkansas, and the perp is a criminal and LEO. Safe to assume he’s armed. Dad likely is brandishing as he approaches the wreck for that reason. According to the article, he recovers the daughter and attempts to flee. He then gets “attacked” by the perp- a desperate sex criminal facing the rest of his life in prison. Depending on dads physical capabilities and the nature of the scuffle, as well as the presence of a firearm that the perp may well have tried to go after, you could make a great case for self defense. You’d presumably have the daughter and wife as witnesses and a deleted perp can’t contradict dads story.
It’s Arkansas, and the perp is a criminal and LEO. Safe to assume he’s armed. Dad likely is brandishing as he approaches the wreck for that reason. According to the article, he recovers the daughter and attempts to flee. He then gets “attacked” by the perp- a desperate sex criminal facing the rest of his life in prison. Depending on dads physical capabilities and the nature of the scuffle, as well as the presence of a firearm that the perp may well have tried to go after, you could make a great case for self defense. You’d presumably have the daughter and wife as witnesses and a deleted perp can’t contradict dads story.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:44 pm to jizzle6609
Why do teenage girls do such dumb crap?
Depending on the circumstances of the altercation it might not turn out well.
I hope he doesnt get convicted. I wouldnt make the most legally sound decision in that scenario
Depending on the circumstances of the altercation it might not turn out well.
I hope he doesnt get convicted. I wouldnt make the most legally sound decision in that scenario
Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The reason we started writing down laws 10-12,000 years ago is to specifically avoid prosecution via "common sense".
I don’t need the history lesson. I understand all that. But you seem to have forgotten that prosecutors have absolute discretion as to what cases to pursue. They are not automatons.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 6:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
My grill overheated once. It was a terrible situation.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:48 pm to Vacherie Saint
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If the article is accurate, the dad did everything right.
If you’re given the option of spending 20 years in jail or your daughter getting abducted by her rapist, it’s probably a pretty easy decision in the moment.
People with skin in the game get that without a second thought.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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become the initial aggressors
If you have previously sexually assaulted my minor daughter, have a legal order against you being in her presence and you have taken her in your car at night from my home, it’s going to be a tough sell to the jury that I’m the initial aggressor by pursuing you.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Was she? The story had been reported implying she left with him. Illegal? Yes Terrible? Yes But again we don't need to interject histrionics when reality is bad enough
This board has easily some of the dumbest Qtards walking the face of the planet, and yet, somehow you’ve managed to top them all.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:12 am to JiminyCricket
They/them is larping as a contrarian attorney. They aren't real. They're an asperger laced bowl of oatmeal for brains (best case scenario).. or a creepy pedo frick playing defense for the cause.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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I actually almost said earlier in this thread that he shouldn't have brought his gun and he wouldn't be in this mess.
You are such a fricking idiot and a terrible person on top of all of that.
You really are.
If you’re daughter was the one abducted and you didn’t bring a gun to look for her, then you don’t deserve to have children.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:29 am to JColtF
Sounds like some how Arkansas has some liberal prosecutors
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:55 am to Big4SALTbro
I saw this thread and couldn't believe it was 12 pages but then I thought maybe...
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dead pedo
quote:and it suddenly made sense. This pos never misses an opportunity to pontificate when a pedo is involved.
SFP
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:01 am to PeleofAnalytics
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I get it but I really can't see the guy stressing out thinking he might be convicted? He is in Lonoke County Arkansas. Smack dab in the middle of the state. Lonoke is 81.87% white and voted 75.85% Trump in the last election. 40.30% of households have children under 18 and 63.30% are with married couples.
Don't forget, this is the. Same county this happened in 2022:
LINK
(That officer was found guilty)
To me Lonoke co. Leadership needs an overhaul. District judge, Cabot chief and mayor, prosecutor, etc.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:06 am to I20goon
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Don't forget, this is the. Same county this happened in 2022:
LINK
(That officer was found guilty)
So your example that "anything could happen with a jury" is a short article that tells you absolutely nothing about the circumstances where the cop shot the teen, what his ultimate conviction was and how long he spent in prison (that's past tense... he is out)?
They found him guilty of NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE. Not manslaughter. Not murder. It is absolutely the lowest crime you can be convicted of when you end someone's life. Negligent homicide is a misdemeanor that gets you less than a year in prison in Arkansas. Why don't you actually cite the article that say what happened? Witness statements. The fact he didn't put his body cam on. Also the fact that this police officer is already out of prison. This instance really doesn't make the point you think it does. It basically tells you a DA and jury in the middle of Arkansas is going to do exactly what I said they would do.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:39 am to scottydoesntknow
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You knocking up someone doesnt give you wisdom bro. I was once a 14 year old like you were. Some of the dumbest, and least wise people ive ever met have kids so spare me the emotional drivel
It gives me experience which obviously far outweighs your 'wisdom'.
By the way junior, you should probably keep it that way, the world will be a much better place without some retarded little scottydoesntknows running around.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:25 pm to PeleofAnalytics
quote:I didn't say a damn thing about a jury you moron.
So your example that "anything could happen with a jury" is a short article that tells you absolutely nothing about the circumstances where the cop shot the teen, what his ultimate conviction was and how long he spent in prison (that's past tense... he is out)?
quote:Exactly what point do you think I didn't make? Something something about a jury?
This instance really doesn't make the point you think it does.
No, dumbass, I was pointing out Lonoke Co. has repeat incidents and needs a leadership cleansing with....
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To me Lonoke co. Leadership needs an overhaul. District judge, Cabot chief and mayor, prosecutor, etc.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:53 am to I20goon
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I didn't say a damn thing about a jury you moron.
Then why the hell are you responding to my comment that was just about the JURY you moron.
The original comment I made was about whether he should be worried about going to jail for murder BASED OF A JURY made up of citizens of Lonoke county. I said no jury is going to convict him.
How you went off on some vague tangent about leadership of the county is beyond me. Pick another comment to respond to if that is what you want to talk about. County leadership is pretty irrelevant to my comment. "Repeat instances" of anything is irrelevant. It was about A JURY (the final say) convicting him based off of the demographics and general morality of the citizens. How you think anything you originally said was a counterpoint to my take on the jury pool is baffling. Try to keep up. Later.
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