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Are We In A Pearl Harbor Moment With Russia? Could they Decapitate us?

Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:35 pm
Serious question. Same scenario is playing out with Russia as did the Japs before they launched Pearl Harbor raid. All was good as we were in “Talks” with The Japs then they surprise attacked us. With Russia possessing Hyper Sonic Missiles that actually work while we do not have hyper sonic missiles that are as competent as the Russians. One may ask, what if Russia takes us out in one swift Hypersonic Nuclear Volley? I don’t think it’s unrealistic. Putin knows he has the upper hand with Missile technology what if he thinks he can end the USA right now?
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:37 pm to
His missiles can't target our subs, so it's a bit of a moot point.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62403 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:37 pm to
Why we have satellites and subs. Yeah, you may take us out, but everything dies afterwards….
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23680 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:37 pm to
I can't imagine that Russia wants to end life on Earth with an all out nuclear war with anyone.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Catchfalaya




Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2467 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:38 pm to
Nukes on subs.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8136 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:38 pm to
WOLVERINES!
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1921 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:38 pm to
But can his S-500 missile defense system shoot down our submarine launched ICBM’s? Also if he decapitated our command n control at home/took out our GPS guidance satellites would the subs even be able to lock on?
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:38 pm to
Nuclear winter would frick everyone up. Only a suicidal madman would use them.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36006 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:39 pm to
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I don’t think it’s unrealistic. Putin knows he has the upper hand with Missile technology what if he thinks he can end the USA right now?

This is Bill Kristol on crack cocaine.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57429 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

With Russia possessing Hyper Sonic Missiles that actually work while we do not have hyper sonic missiles that are as competent as the Russians.
how do you know... do you have intelligence clearance to know this?
quote:

. Putin knows he has the upper hand with Missile technology what if he thinks he can end the USA right now?
does he? how do you know this? has Vlad called you? and Do they? see comment 1.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:41 pm to
Why attack someone who is already fitting their own noose?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34023 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:42 pm to
Russia is surrounded by a nuclear deterrent, 80% of which is mobile and mostly undetectable. By the time the first attempted attack was detected, Moscow, St Petersburg, Minsk, Volgograd, Vladivostok would have barely just enough time to kiss their arse goodbye.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26121 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Could they Decapitate us?

Nope.

quote:

One may ask, what if Russia takes us out in one swift Hypersonic Nuclear Volley?

Not even sure what that would mean. But Russia is nowhere close to being capable of neutralizing the US. There’s also MAD to consider, which hypersonic missiles do not change.

Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4826 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Serious question. Same scenario is playing out with Russia as did the Japs before they launched Pearl Harbor raid. All was good as we were in “Talks” with The Japs then they surprise attacked us. With Russia possessing Hyper Sonic Missiles that actually work while we do not have hyper sonic missiles that are as competent as the Russians. One may ask, what if Russia takes us out in one swift Hypersonic Nuclear Volley? I don’t think it’s unrealistic. Putin knows he has the upper hand with Missile technology what if he thinks he can end the USA right now?


This is why we have SSBN's. We have enough SSBN's and warheads at sea at any given time to completely vaporize Russia. They know it. That's why there will never nuke war from one of the big nations.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1921 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:47 pm to
Russia’s S-500 system can neutralize Sub launched ICBM’s
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26121 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Russia’s S-500 system can neutralize Sub launched ICBM’s

Just how many systems do you think they have? And you think they have them everywhere?

They don’t.

This is a silly LARP. You are also making the hilariously incorrect assumption that the capability of the US military/nuclear forces ends at publicly available information.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4964 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:51 pm to
It is tough to predict what Putin will do. I've read various things that it is remote that Putin will go into Ukraine and that he wouldn't have a lot of support in Russia for it and the financial fall out if he did from Sanctions etc.

But then the other part of me says that he would do it knowing that NATO will do nothing. There is a history there with Georgia and Crimea and the same people running Obama WH is running Joe.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5807 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:52 pm to
Completely different situation.

We had an oil embargo in place against Japan. It did not have any domestic oil. It’s entire international ideology received around obtaining strategic oil reserves via force. Once we slapped the embargo on them , their warrior code mentality kicked in which meant war was inevitable. They could not give into the embargo without causing shame to themselves, the nation and emperor .


Russia wants to control the flow on gas into Europe and have a land buffer. They don’t NEED those things to survive as Japan NEEDED to oil to survive economically. They aren’t starting a world war over this, but will happily instigate a local flair up if they think we won’t interfere.
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