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re: Are The Political Left & The Political Right Farther Apart Than Ever?Can Anything Be Done?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:43 pm to weagle1999
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:43 pm to weagle1999
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politicians
this is the problem
I wish the founders had thought of the ultimate civilization destroyer = the 'politician' who has never earned an honest dollar in his life.
I really wish we had some sort of guard against career politicians. Shouldn't they have to prove something in the REAL world to show that they had some sort of idea how it operates?
At least to have existed there with no federal paycheck for a while to demonstrate an understanding of what the important day-to-day problems may be.
I think this is where Trump has the edge on any of the people coming after his scalp. Not one of them have any idea of what goes thru the minds of people trying to raise children earn a living and prepare for retirement. In Trump's case he was never in fear of not having a home or food, but he did take what was given him and molded it into successful projects around the world - learning the ways of how world actually works in the process. And more importantly discovering first hand the ridiculous obstructions government puts in the way or diverts funds to idiotic programs.
Being a 'politician' ought not to be the crowning achievement of one's life - it SHOULD be a calling where one puts off more personally profitable pursuits for the good of the country.
yeah - I know - fairy tale land
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:52 pm to KCT
No. There exist no path to the left and right coming together. They are polar opposite of one another on the most basic and foundational issues.
I know it's not a popular perspective, but our situation is basically good vs evil, we are in a spiritual battle.
Killing innocent unborn babies?
Allowing 12 year old boys to cut off their
dicks?
Allow criminals to not be held accountable?
The list is long.....
Putting non citizens before tax paying citizens?
I've been saying this ever since I started posting on this board
I know it's not a popular perspective, but our situation is basically good vs evil, we are in a spiritual battle.
Killing innocent unborn babies?
Allowing 12 year old boys to cut off their
dicks?
Allow criminals to not be held accountable?
The list is long.....
Putting non citizens before tax paying citizens?
I've been saying this ever since I started posting on this board
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:52 pm to Seldom Seen
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I don't know they all seem to be in near unison when it comes to spending our money and clamping down on our rights.
You don't see any difference between Trump and either Biden or Obama? Personally, I didn't see where Biden was even thinking about cutting off the never-ending money supply to Ukraine. I don't recall either Biden or Obama exposing money-laundering schemes like USAID. I didn't see either Biden or Obama fighting for fairer trade deals with other countries. I don't recall the flow of illegal immigration being practically ZERO under Biden or Obama (worse under Biden than Obama). I haven't seen Trump race-baiting ever national incident like Obama did.
And I certainly don't recall either Biden or Obama taking measures to make Washington D.C. and possibly other American cities safer.
But hey, that's just me.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:54 pm to KCT
I want the Democrat party disassembled completely. They do not fit in today's society. We need another party to rise up and libertarians aren't it. In fact we need two more because the two party system isn't working either.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:16 pm to dickkellog
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in other words everything you're not
Uh...incorrect
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:19 pm to KCT
I think the political right is now right of center of what it was 10 years ago.
I think the political left is now off the page.
The right needed to change a bit to meet the masses. They left has lost their freaking minds.
I used to be able to at least understand where the left was coming from, I have no idea now and cannot accept 90% of what they are pushing.
I think the political left is now off the page.
The right needed to change a bit to meet the masses. They left has lost their freaking minds.
I used to be able to at least understand where the left was coming from, I have no idea now and cannot accept 90% of what they are pushing.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:21 pm to SallysHuman
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what is concerning regarding the gap is that it is NOT organic in the slightest
The weirdos opinions get amplified by bots and Soros money.
Then others want to be edgy and protest for the right to cut their penis off and to demand that others do the same.
Tolerance then promotion followed by participation. (Idea from another poster, but it’s true.)
Most of these cultural issues are more than 80/20, but the media tries to amplify it like it’s the other way around.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:21 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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...and doubling down on what got them there.
It almost feels as if they’re self-sabotaging their own party to crash and burn. I know plenty of Dems who are disappointed with the leaders of the Democratic Party.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:24 pm to KCT
This thread definitely poses an interesting question.
To me, there are too many gray areas to answer it without splitting hairs and semantics. I cannot support Republican politicians overall because 95% of them are complete swamp trash. I cannot support Democrat politicians overall because 99% of them are complete swamp trash.
So, I sit in the middle as an observer, watching partisan voters (the two sides of the same trick coin) raze themselves to the ground. And all the while, I'm out there trying to calmly tell the majority of everyone that they're all fricking wrong.
The United States government does nothing but lie to you, and they use the complicit (and thankfully dying) MSM Narrative Control Apparatus to keep us divided based on whichever flavor they choose at this moment- wealth, skin color, region, religion, social opinion, ethnicity, ancestry, literally any topic where more than one perspective is possible. They weaponize it all and have been very successfully lying to us and concealing the truth at any and all costs since the formation of Operation Mockingbird in 1948.
We're witnessing the primary, secondary and tertiary effects of 77 consecutive years of gaslighting and manipulation through an incredibly efficient psyop. So can we overcome that? Not in a single generation, and perhaps not at all.
To me, there are too many gray areas to answer it without splitting hairs and semantics. I cannot support Republican politicians overall because 95% of them are complete swamp trash. I cannot support Democrat politicians overall because 99% of them are complete swamp trash.
So, I sit in the middle as an observer, watching partisan voters (the two sides of the same trick coin) raze themselves to the ground. And all the while, I'm out there trying to calmly tell the majority of everyone that they're all fricking wrong.
The United States government does nothing but lie to you, and they use the complicit (and thankfully dying) MSM Narrative Control Apparatus to keep us divided based on whichever flavor they choose at this moment- wealth, skin color, region, religion, social opinion, ethnicity, ancestry, literally any topic where more than one perspective is possible. They weaponize it all and have been very successfully lying to us and concealing the truth at any and all costs since the formation of Operation Mockingbird in 1948.
We're witnessing the primary, secondary and tertiary effects of 77 consecutive years of gaslighting and manipulation through an incredibly efficient psyop. So can we overcome that? Not in a single generation, and perhaps not at all.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:28 pm to TigerAxeOK
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I cannot support Republican politicians overall because 95% of them are complete swamp trash. I cannot support Democrat politicians overall because 99% of them are complete swamp trash.
I feel exactly the same way. That's one of the reasons why I'm MAGA.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:31 pm to KCT
I was unwilling to compromise with the left when their platform was only marxism.
Then they introduced a host of abominations.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:38 pm to KCT
The lefts entire political ideology is orange man bad.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:46 pm to Bham4Tide
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I think the political right is now right of center of what it was 10 years ago.
It really isn't. Heck, we had a long article posted here a day ago about the Gay faction in the Trump administration; that wasn't done openly in any Republican administration even 10 years ago.
There's all kinds of old free speech liberals, browbeaten socially liberal manual laborers, and immigrants who came here legally who look at the insanity of the Left diving off the deep end, and have said 'Stop'.
That doesn't mean the Right is moving more right. The number of people who refuse to entertain insanity and who dig in their heels is what's changed.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:54 pm to KCT
For something to be done there has to be some honest intentions and reason. Two things the left has absolutely none of.
As a wise man once said, "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture."
That's what we're dealing with trying to reason with the left. frick them
As a wise man once said, "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture."
That's what we're dealing with trying to reason with the left. frick them
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Step 1: stop trying to make everything partisan or political
Step 2: stop being addicted to dopamine hits of emotionality
Step 3: analyze news/sourcing with objective logic and rationality, instead of echo chamber logic and emotion.
Not nearly enough. Skips the first and most important steps.
The first thing people (on both sides) have got to do is examine the underlying principles behind policy suggestions and develop an actual personal policy philosophy instead of just opposing anything the other side says for no other reason that that the other side opposes it.
The second thing people have got to do is learn to respect the system we have instead of just constantly trying to weaponize it against the other side—and being willing to tear it down to do so—and realize that when you do this, even if you win, you lose. You may own your opponent today, but when s/he gets back on top (and s/he will, they always do), they are going to do the same to you, and every time you both do it the system crumbles a little more.
This is why populism is so toxic, because it mindlessly charges forward to harm opponents without regard for the underlying system. It's like two guys in a wooden rowboat out in deep water and they both just keep trying to find ways of drilling holes in the other guy's end of the boat, oblivious to the fact that they are sinking too.
And yes, the Democrats did start the Spy vs Spy war...like I said, they've been majority populist longer. But now there's no longer an adult in the room to stop the monkey business.
Number three, we've got to rediscover the concept of compromise. It's become all or nothing, with each side just waiting for their opportunity to shove it down the other side's throat.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:01 pm to Bham4Tide
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I think the political right is now right of center of what it was 10 years ago.
The "right" base talks like Jimmy Carter era Democrats from the 70s.
It's not right of anywhere it's ever been before.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Step 1: stop trying to make everything partisan or political
Anyone who does this is worthless to me. I'm guessing it's mostly people 50 and up
quote:
Step 2: stop being addicted to dopamine hits of emotionality
You usually find what you look for. Some people look to be enraged. And it's no surprise that they find pretty of rage bait to be emotional about.
quote:
Step 3: analyze news/sourcing with objective logic and rationality, instead of echo chamber logic and emotion.
Pfft that's cray talk
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:19 pm to KCT
Why are democratic cities riddled with crime? Why are dims defending crime? Why are dims going further and further left on nearly every issue for that matter? This shite needs to be studied, is it TDS?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Uh...incorrect
no it's not boy, you might fool some of these hay seeds but you're not fooling me.
i just hired a lawyer licensed to practice law in california before he'd even pick up pen and take notes it cost me 8k for a retainer you've written "war and peace" 10 times over on this website for free what ever you are it aint a lawyer.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:35 pm to KCT
1. Heavy Term Limits and heavy prosecution for insider trading.
2. Repeal Obama’s bullshite law that allowed MSM to flat out lie constantly. Prosecute the CEO’s of these media platforms. They must be held accountable.
3. Deport all illegals and their families.
4. Deport all CCP born people. Every. Single. One.
5. Continue to uphold and enforce the Constitution exactly as Trump is doing.
6. Immediately revoke the license of every single Doctor and Psychiatrist that has given “gender affirming care” or transition meds/surgery to minors. Prosecute the frick out of them.
6. Immediately cut all funding to ever single College institution, they are a major part of the problem. Let them operate as an independent business and stand on their own merit, just like capitalism intended.
The overwhelming thing we lack in our society is accountability.
We have judges in this country sympathizing with illegals and walking them out the back door preventing the actual government from doing their jobs, which is protecting the homeland.
Once all of that happens, then we can find compromise to move towards the Clinton era center. Clinton is an extreme MAGA in the eyes of the left.
The left has far too many extreme stances on average everyday life to ever compromise.
2. Repeal Obama’s bullshite law that allowed MSM to flat out lie constantly. Prosecute the CEO’s of these media platforms. They must be held accountable.
3. Deport all illegals and their families.
4. Deport all CCP born people. Every. Single. One.
5. Continue to uphold and enforce the Constitution exactly as Trump is doing.
6. Immediately revoke the license of every single Doctor and Psychiatrist that has given “gender affirming care” or transition meds/surgery to minors. Prosecute the frick out of them.
6. Immediately cut all funding to ever single College institution, they are a major part of the problem. Let them operate as an independent business and stand on their own merit, just like capitalism intended.
The overwhelming thing we lack in our society is accountability.
We have judges in this country sympathizing with illegals and walking them out the back door preventing the actual government from doing their jobs, which is protecting the homeland.
Once all of that happens, then we can find compromise to move towards the Clinton era center. Clinton is an extreme MAGA in the eyes of the left.
The left has far too many extreme stances on average everyday life to ever compromise.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 6:37 pm
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