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re: Are drivers licenses an example of government overreach?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:30 am to RollTide4547
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:30 am to RollTide4547
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Cubbies you should really work on finding a way to bag the BS you spew
I didn't spew this. The poster I responded to said he's never stepped foot in prison because he doesn't find it difficult to obey laws.
What did you take away from that? Everyone who has been convicted of a crime must find it difficult to obey laws.
Now people are lashing out at me for something another person said.
I don't trust the government. The government saying that someone did something wrong doesn't hold much water in my eyes.
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:32 am to 4cubbies
quote:That you think President Trumps conviction was legit. He was railroaded in an attempt to prevent him from running again. A failed attempt at that.
What did you take away from that?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:32 am to 4cubbies
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Passing a test doesn't mean someone is going to follow the laws of the road.
It teaches them what the rules of the road are and those laws.
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People fly past me on suburban roads all the time
Your anecdote bears no value in this conversation.
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A teenager that is hell-bent on driving a car will do so even without a license.
Will they? Is this something common you experience? If you are a barely responsible parent this is not true.
1) Where are they getting the vehicle? Are they stealing cars because of this urge to drive? No. Are they stealing mom and dads car? Pretty easy to keep that from happening by not leaving the keys out for your degenerate child who has no impulse control.
2) Do you have statistics or somethign that this happens frequently?
3) This is an extremely odd and rather unintelligent comment that really doesn't have any basis in reality.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:35 am to 4cubbies
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EXCEPT Donald Trump. Give me a break. At least own your own hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy? Uhh.. have you seen what the AG of NY is accused of doing? The one who was elected on the promise of going after Trump?
So we have an AG of NY, who admittedly targeted Trump, commit the SAME crime. Only this time it is evident that it was flagrant. And you come here flinging around “hypocrisy”?
Also, the trial and verdict was such a sham that the Governor of NY had to come out and publicly state that there would be no more targeted prosecutions on it to keep real estate investors and contractors from fleeing NY.
The court accepted valuation of Mar a Lago, that was required to prosecute, was a sham and you know it, they know it, and everyone knows it. Property sale after property sale in the area proves it.
Hypocrisy. lol.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:36 am to 4cubbies
quote:I'm with you on not trusting the government. However, if someone is here illegally they did commit a crime and they are criminals.
I don't trust the government. The government saying that someone did something wrong doesn't hold much water in my eyes.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:37 am to 4cubbies
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i have a fundamentally different view of the purpose prisonof is supposed to serve. American prisons in their current state violate the 8th amendmen imo.
1) What makes prisons cruel and unusual?
2) What is different about "american prisons in their current state" that differs from when you deemed prisons acceptable?
3) Incarceration has been around since society has been around. Same thing with laws. Not sure how you can call incarceration or prisons "cruel and unusual" when they have been in existence since the dawn of civilization.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:40 am to EZE Tiger Fan
If they ever start doing inspections on cars in Alabama about 30% of them will be pulled off the road immediately. Which is probably why It won’t happen. I’m not a fan of State yearly inspections. If you really think those are about safety, then you’re being fooled those are money grabs entirely.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:40 am to 4cubbies
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EXCEPT Donald Trump.
What crime is Trump guilty of? And i want you to tell me the law broken, and your interpretation of said "crime".
FWIW, you shouldn't believe anything the media tells you. There is a reason they have an 8% approval rate, and why they have literally no impact on elections any more.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:44 am to 4cubbies
I like this process better.
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However, while an individual is in the care, custody and control of the government after exhibiting antisocial behavior, the government has a societal responsibility to treat the individual the same way that Old Yeller was treated
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:45 am to 4cubbies
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American prisons in their current state violate the 8th amendmen imo.
Really? If it’s so bad… why is recidivism in the US among the highest in the world?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 am to 4cubbies
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The government saying that someone did something wrong doesn't hold much water in my eyes.
Which part doesn't "hold much water"?
The government saying that they did something wrong....
Or they government saying that what they did was wrong?
As in... are you against the government claiming that person X broke the law...
or that the law that person X broke exists in the first place?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 am to BugAC
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What crime is Trump guilty of? And i want you to tell me the law broken, and your interpretation of said "crime".
I didn't claim he broke laws. The government did. If the government erred in its conviction of Donald Trump, why won't you acknowledge that other convictions perpetuated by the government cannot be trusted, either?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:47 am to CleverUserName
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why is recidivism in the US among the highest in the world?
Because the government fails to rehabilitate anyone while they are in state custody, care and control.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:48 am to 4cubbies
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I didn't claim he broke laws. The government did. If the government erred in its conviction of Donald Trump, why won't you acknowledge that other convictions perpetuated by the government cannot be trusted, either?
You can find common ground with everyone if we all agree that if a prosecutor comes out and says “If I’m put in office… I will find a charge and convict this person”… and there is a sham charge and that person is convicted.. that prosecution is BS.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:49 am to RollTide4547
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I'm with you on not trusting the government. However, if someone is here illegally they did commit a crime and they are criminals.
I can acknowledge that someone in this country without permission broke at least one law in doing so. I'm not out protesting deportations, although I disagree with them on religious grounds.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:50 am to 4cubbies
How many more illegals do you think Obama deported without due process than trump?
Don’t Google.
I’ll even praise big O on his accomplishment. One of the few things he did I liked.
Don’t Google.
I’ll even praise big O on his accomplishment. One of the few things he did I liked.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:50 am to CleverUserName
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“If I’m put in office… I will find a charge and convict this person”… and there is a sham charge and that person is convicted.. that prosecution is BS.
What about when they say "I'm put in office, I will find and charge people who did things," and then they incarcerate people who they claim did things. It's the same thing, just not involving a celebrity.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:51 am to CleverUserName
quote:Because it is not bad enough. Prisons should be so bad that when you get out, the mere thought of commiting a crime and going back makes you physically ill..
why is recidivism in the US among the highest in the world?
I got deathly sick on "El Presendete" brandy (blackberry) in the spring of 1987. To this day, one sniff of sweet brandy alcohol makes me want to vomit.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:52 am to BugAC
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Incarceration has been around since society has been around. Same thing with laws. Not sure how you can call incarceration or prisons "cruel and unusual" when they have been in existence since the dawn of civilization.
When is the last time you put someone in a cage for holding a plant? If your neighbor caught you growing weed and he kidnapped you and put you in a cage would you think that was cruel and unusual.
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