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re: Any takers for a discussion about “Marxian economics”?

Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:10 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:10 am to
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Me and a handful of remaining posters are who made this board what it is.




Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:11 am to
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she’s not going to sleep with you.
so this is what passes for witty retorts on the PoliBoard now?

I feel overdressed.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:14 am to
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If Walmart existed in Marx time he would have a volume of books on it. I hate Walmart yet still find myself shopping there a lot.

I prefer my local family owned grocer like Zuppardos that gas every register open and dozens of employees all over to help shoppers. Meanwhile at Walmart there are 4 lanes our of 40 open and all self check out. While the bulk of their employees are shopping for online orders.
Oddly enough as a kid I had a neighbor who was a WW2 vet who was a greeter at Walmart and his wife a cashier. They both had decent cars (Taurus and a Sable) and put their daughter through catholic school. In two walmart salaries.
Walmart changed how they treat employees.
But they are the nation's biggest employer. Amazon also is horrible to work for yet I can't stop using them. I ordered something in bed last night and woke up to it at my door. As a consumer I love that.

same to all of this. I go to Conseco’s and Costco the most but I get deliveries from Walmart quite a bit too. Convenience.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:20 am to
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How so? An economy built on speculation?


If you're pining for a classless society I would like to hear your explanation of what that looks like and what motivation will there be for people to excel at whatever endeavor they pursue, such as science, medicine, engineering, etc. There's not a lot of motivation to bust your arse if your wages after 8 years of medical school is just a bit higher than the dude who is working in the building trades. Giving a bloated and oppressive government the power to control nearly every facet of your existence is not only idiotic it's frightening.

I remember quite well how the attempt at a classless society worked out for the citizens of the Soviet Union and Mao's China.
Posted by lurking
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:21 am to
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I feel overdressed.


You chose to wear the girdle, fig.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:22 am to
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How can we privatize the things that are the biggest draw on our deficit/debt?
The military industrial complex has found some ways. Don’t underestimate the innovative American spirit
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:24 am to
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What Saltman/Wolff are discussing is consumer decisions, but trying to pass them off as industry mandates.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Consumers didn’t decide to stagnate their wages.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:26 am to
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Me and a handful of remaining posters are who made this board what it is.
yeah, I do remember you here from way back.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:28 am to
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If you're pining for a classless society
How did you draw this conclusion?

I’m asking how we got where we are economically. I don’t have a prepared answer.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:29 am to
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lurking


I stopped reading your responses in this thread after the first few. You’ve posted in this thread quite a bit. Have any of your posts been on topic or are they all melts over the thread you chose to click on?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:35 am to
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Don’t underestimate the innovative American spirit

We always find ways to save...

...so we can spend more elsewhere!

Americans, doing what rich societies have done since the dawn of time. Get fat and spend money.

Anyway, military is discretionary spending and it makes up less than half of that. Not that I am defending how much we spend there. We will one day get over being the world's police and spend in-line with what other nations spend on military.

Here is where we spend our money

The failing social security system is where almost 1/4 of our spending goes. Nationalized medicine is another chunk. Social programs in general drag us down. Any real austerity measures start with these programs and with military spending.

Any American politician doing real measures, would not last long at all since true austerity would piss off both parties. Not me though. I love to watch a broken system burn.
Posted by lurking
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:35 am to
They are on topic in perhaps the most on topic way anyone has ever seen. Me and my friends built this board, don’t you know?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:35 am to
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If you're pining for a classless society
How did you draw this conclusion?

I’m asking how we got where we are economically. I don’t have a prepared answer.


Because Marxian Economics and Marxism are inextricable.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:37 am to
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How can we privatize the things that are the biggest draw on our deficit/debt?
The military industrial complex has found some ways. Don’t underestimate the innovative American spirit


Again, either completely dishonest or ignorant ...

Federal Spending by Category

23% - Social Security
15% - Medicare
14% - Health

13% - Defense spending ...

9% - Income Security (see Welfare)

29% of our federal budget is spent on healthcare ...

With entitlement spending at 38% of the budget ...

Anyone who doesn't know or understand this is either dishonest or ignorant ...
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:39 am to
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I read this in article by Kenneth J. Saltman, “The Austerity School,” and the claims track. Is this a failure or feature of capitalism?


It’s a failure of dumbasses who want everything now instead of working for it.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:40 am to
And Social Security was a Marxist trope/installment from FDR ...

That has the country on the verge of bankruptcy because it was poorly designed, executed and used as a piggy bank for other Marxist ideas ...

61% of our federal budget is spent on stuff that isn't even Constitutionally backed ...
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:50 am to
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Because Marxian Economics and Marxism are inextricable.
the study of Marxian economics isn’t the same as advocating for a Marxist revolution.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:53 am to
4commies dreams of being Komrade Kaprugina.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:54 am to
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We always find ways to save...

...so we can spend more elsewhere!

we don’t even care about saving as long as we and/or our friends get a cut or all of the pot. That’s what happened with the MIC.

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Here is where we spend our money
where else would/should our tax dollars go?

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I love to watch a broken system burn.
just look around, friend.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:55 am to
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And Social Security was a Marxist trope/installment from FDR ...

That has the country on the verge of bankruptcy because it was poorly designed, executed and used as a piggy bank for other Marxist ideas ...

61% of our federal budget is spent on stuff that isn't even Constitutionally backed ...


The only way to reverse the insanity of what the federal government has morphed into is to take away the trillions of US taxpayer dollars from them.

All social programs should be at the state level.

The onus will be on each state for their own success. Each state will determine what social programs are available to its residents, each state will be responsible for the prudent use of their residents' tax dollars.......or they will fail like most Blue states will fail without federal funding.

The federal government's role should primarily be defense of the nation and its borders, certain nationwide infrastructure projects, and maybe a common fund that is contributed from each state to fund federal government response to national emergencies, such as natural disasters.
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