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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:33 am to 4cubbies
The central argument is that capitalism increasingly rewarded owning capital rather than performing labor.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:34 am to Napoleon
But even those that perform labor have more disposable income than any point in human history and live better than the kings of yesteryear pre evil capitalism 
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:35 am to 4cubbies
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“The Austerity School,” and the claims track.
Literally nothing in his claims "track" unless you accept the opening assumption that the largest, most successful economy the world has ever seen is actually wallowing in austerity.
To begin to accept his premise one is required to erase any knowledge of the widening quality-of-life chasm between Americans and the rest of the planet.
If such an erasure is managed, one then has to similarly assume differential austerity in one of the highest spending per capita 1°/2° Ed systems on the planet.
None of it tracks.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:35 am to 4cubbies
TLDR for anyone checking this thread:
OP posts about a subject she admittedly knows nothing about
Is provided answers on the subject
OP ignores what she’s been told to ask questions designed to force responses that fit her predetermined world view
The End
OP posts about a subject she admittedly knows nothing about
Is provided answers on the subject
OP ignores what she’s been told to ask questions designed to force responses that fit her predetermined world view
The End
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 8:36 am
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:35 am to Napoleon
Is that the natural outcome of the system? Or was it somehow gamed to reward that?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:36 am to 4cubbies
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what term would you like me to use instead?
It's not the term, it's the discussion around industrialization, based around your OP
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Are you implying that deindustrialization is irrelevant when discussing the evolution of our economy?
Irrelevant? We are still plenty industrialized, but we have moved onto a more advanced economy. Devolving into a lower-level manufacturing/industrial nation would be -EV.
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You’re being a dick for no reason.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:36 am to 4cubbies
In training to be a good Marxist foot soldier are ya?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:36 am to yakster
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You sound pretty Marxist there. “You will buy what we tell you to buy”.
Are you illiterate? How do you turn this:
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People buying shite they don't need, and having the ability to go into debt to do so, is just a symptom of freedom.
into
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“You will buy what we tell you to buy”.
?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:37 am to lurking
quote:
TLDR for anyone checking this thread:
OP posts about a subject she admittedly knows nothing about
Is provided answers on the subject
OP ignores what she’s been told to ask questions designed to force responses that fit her predetermined world view
The End
With progressives, expect progressive-level intellect.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:37 am to 4cubbies
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Is that the natural outcome of the system? Or was it somehow gamed to reward that?
Even those that own nothing are rewarded by the societal advances that come from capitalistic markets.
Hence why 34k American puts you in the 1% of the world
Muh capitalism badddddddd
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:38 am to beerJeep
This is a good point. The world two most successful communist countries Vietnam and China only prosper because they have some quasi capitalism and are major exporters.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:38 am to Centinel
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You've made the PoliBoard band together with their most hated enemy, SFP,
Eh, the people posting in agreement with me understand there is a strawman avatar of SFP and then real SFP, and it's just hard to spin what I actually post into that strawman (although yakster did just try)
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:38 am to NC_Tigah
quote:austerity is the alleged goal of neoliberal policies that have taken hold of our government over the last 40 years.
Literally nothing in his claims "track" unless you accept the opening assumption that the largest, most successful economy the world has ever seen is actually wallowing in austerity.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:40 am to 4cubbies
What’s wrong? Can’t combat logic?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:40 am to Centinel
All of her threads happen exactly the same way. She pretends she’s just a curious intellectual and then spends the next four pages ignoring what’s been said to constantly say yeah but what about this 
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:41 am to stout
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I just wish globalization would stop being used as an excuse to issue work visas and suppress American's wages
A lot of that is just tweaking government policy to be more responsive to real time economic/employment data.
And then people will argue its a policy around people and can't be unstable, which then creates a natural avenue for a decrease in demand for the policy, so win-win.
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Many things that we need to onshore, though. Like medication.
You have to be careful with the "national security" stuff, b/c it will just turn into "infrastructure" and can become anything.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:the reason I think you’re an arse is because you’re guilty of the same behavior fwiw. Like the others, I believe you just do it for fake internet social status.
Eh, the people posting in agreement with me understand there is a strawman avatar of SFP and then real SFP, and it's just hard to spin what I actually post into that strawman (although yakster did just try)
Since we’re kind of talking about sociology…
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:42 am to 4cubbies
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the reason I think you’re an arse is because you’re guilty of the same behavior fwiw. Like the others, I believe you just do it for fake internet social status.
Since we’re kind of talking about sociology…
This thread isn't about me
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:42 am to beerJeep
I'm not at all disagreeing. Marxism in a pure form has never been implemented because it's not really possible to maintain. You'll still have haves and have nots with no room for improvement. One just needs to look at the USSR and others.
China is different and you can't look at them and say "they made marxism" work because that system is unique and other than their strict leadership they are a capitalist nation now.
China is different and you can't look at them and say "they made marxism" work because that system is unique and other than their strict leadership they are a capitalist nation now.
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