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re: Any takers for a discussion about “Marxian economics”?

Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:00 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39502 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:00 am to
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nice insight. Thanks for sharing your expertise.


Dodge duck dip dive and dodge.

Back to your old moves eh cubs?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:01 am to
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Yes, 100%

Are we in too deep now? Is there a way out?
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4442 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:01 am to
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Shocking that you don't understand the basic economic principles that you are reading.


OP doesn't understand 98% of what she reads ... but she pronounced the words right in her head, so it makes her qualified to start these ignorant threads ...
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39502 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:02 am to
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Is there a way out?


You could start by being honest with the class and admitting when you are wrong.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
86274 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:02 am to
Speculation because the customer determines value?

Just wait till you learn what happens in a Marxist economy during an emergency or unforeseen sudden scarcity.

Centrally planned economies lack fluidity, flexibility, and agility.
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 8:06 am
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
14193 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:04 am to
Amazing! The same sheep advocating for socialism feed greedily at the trough of "consumer" debt...

It's simple really: the Sheep will be controlled, but by whom?
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 8:06 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:06 am to
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People buying shite they don't need, and having the ability to go into debt to do so, is just a symptom of freedom.
does this explain the substitution of consumer debt for wage growth?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39502 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:06 am to
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does this explain the substitution of consumer debt for wage growth?


Disposable income at an all time high
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
39385 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:08 am to
We had it in 1873 and the early 1900's and the unfettered capitalism lead to a whole host of problems both financially and societal. So, some regulation by the referee that is the state was in order. You should read up on the Panic of 1873 it lead to a 6 year depression.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487635 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:08 am to
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What about deindustrialization

What about it?

The US is still highly industrialized but lower-level or environmentally-damaging industry was offshored. You sound like Trump rambling about manufacturing, here.

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and the decline of wages?

This is similar to people starting the inflation/interest framing in the late 70s, where the start of the decline focuses on an outlier-high period of wages (post WW2).

This applies to industrialization also I reckon

Wages have declined. Costs have declined even faster for most goods. There are some outliers that are artificially high due to government policy (like housing, education)
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4442 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:08 am to
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does this explain the substitution of consumer debt for wage growth?


This is as esoteric as Ogre asking "What if C-A-T really spells dog?"

Give up the ghost and sign back up with Reddit to have these kinds of threads with your kind ...
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 8:10 am
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
4482 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:09 am to
Let’s get a couple of things straight before entering the discussion: capitalism has produced more widespread wealth than any previous economic system to date; communism and its offspring socialism have never produced sustained economic growth anywhere near capitalism. China implemented Maoism which was an urban focused communism led by urban elites while the peasants starved and was a colossal failure much worse than Stalinism. Stalin and Lenin implemented a peasant centered communism which led to rationing in urban areas and was a colossal failure so much so that the Soviets warned Mao not implement such a rigid system. He didn’t listen. The Soviets knew by the early 70’s that the system was on the verge of collapse and eased restrictions but the collapse was inevitable
Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
1878 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:09 am to
It is impossible to discuss anything with you. You are literally this dumb. You are trying to Justify Marxism. Enough said.
Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
1878 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:12 am to
You are wasting your time with 4 cubbies. She is THAT far gone, and unfortunately she carries an IQ of around 50 or 60, so there really isn't any hope that she will ever come to her senses. She isn't alone. Just look at these women and gay men protesting. They are disgusting misfits and losers, and they can't make it on their own, so they want it all burned down and start over with everyone being equal. LOL. Like that would change who people are.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:12 am to
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The US is still highly industrialized but lower-level or environmentally-damaging industry was offshored. You sound like Trump rambling about manufacturing, here
I didn’t even make a claim what do you think I’m arguing for?

I’m trying to understand.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39502 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:12 am to
Don’t forget, papa Mao is responsible for over 40 million deaths, mostly due to his 4 pest campaign and the resulting famine and his massive use of forced labor camps and “midnight disappearances”

The ONLY thing that saved the CCP was a near total abandonment of communism in practice and the widespread adoption and reliance on international capitalistic markets.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
112279 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:13 am to
Why is what you posted here supposed to lead to a discussion about “Marxist economics”?
Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
1878 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:14 am to
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Dodge duck dip dive and dodge.

Back to your old moves eh cubs?


you are giving her way too much credit. She is literally borderline retarded, and might not even be borderline, but full. She clearly doesn't have a lot to work with upstairs, and is looking for something that will change her miserable life.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39502 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:14 am to
Still no response dear? That’s sad how you can’t even respond to posts proving you wrong. Just a good little faux intellectual soldier. Full blinders on, ignore any challenge that proves the message wrong, keep flinging shite like the good little faux intellectual you are.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
86274 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:15 am to
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sign back up with Reddit to have these kinds of threads with your kind ...
well that is unnecessary.

She obtained specious information, and she is seeking to discuss. Running people off for shite like that is how you create echo chambers.
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