re: Annual "what did I do wrong to get punished?" thread re: ACA

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Yep, thanks fo rnoting. I need to update my fallback diatribe when this topic arises. In one way or another this whole fiasco has been a vast transfer of wealth with very marginal benefit to a very few people.

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It was always intended to lead us closer to single payer. It was designed knowing that it was not sustainable.

if they didn't know it was unsustainable, then they showed how stupid they are

first, the punitive measures of not buying insurance were so weak that they were almost negligible

second, the demographic who they HAD to have in order to overcharge and subsidize everyone else, is the most technologically savvy group in the history of human kind. they know what they need, can afford, and how to assess risk. i'm not saying they're perfect at this along every step (ie, college and loans) but they're at a higher level than any generation before. assuming they'd be the stupidest generation in the history of mankind (which is what it would take to agree to the shitty deal the ACA offered) is utterly stupid

Wrong. The intention was for the ins market to fail, thereby forcing the single payer option.

They couldnt get sigle payer passed, so they did nextbest thing. Forced a bill through that is the equivalent of a cyanide pill for the ins market. Slowly increasing punishments, forcing ppl to buy coverage they cant afford, much less afford to use.

10 years down the road, ppl are begging for sigle payer. They will say it was unavoidable, we tried, etc.

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You supported Trump and the Republicans.

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didn't vote for Trump

have never voted for a Republican for President

i think the only Republican i've ever voted for, for Congress was a Congressman i worked with on a campaign (so I owed him that much)

and if you notice, the previuos 2 threads in this series are pre-Trump

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60% of that hike is directly due to their sabotage of the ACA.

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and what about the 500% increase from 2010-2016? Trump too? how? hell how was it even the GOP's fault?

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And you still refuse to realize that the plan you had pre-ACA was useless in the event that you actually became sick and needed to use it.

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WE ARE BACK TO 2011, BOYS AND GIRLS.

the ghost of Tuba lives!!!!!

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You weren't paying for a plan then, you were pretending to pay for one.

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you're wrong. the only difference as a lifetime cap (of $5M i think). well that and not having to pay for stuff i don't need (can you explain why i need to have insurance for pregnancy/OB/maternity?)

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you can thank Trump for actively trying to sabotage the country's healthcare system

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And Congressional Republicans before that.

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Taking you from 'not insurance' to 'actual insurance'.

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wrong. i had a deductible, providers in my network i wanted, and full coverage after i met my deductible

i literally had the same lies posted about my plan 6 years ago and posted pics of it on here to shut them up

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Weakening the mandate, not allowing for a public option, and constant uncertainty due to their failed lawsuits re: the ACA drove prices for you up. Directly.

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the biggest jump came before the GOP had the power to do this.

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And EHBs, and annual caps, and recission, and pre-existing condition exclusions, and community rating, etc.

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works fine for me. i'd still be using that exact same plan today if it was an option. because it's exactly what i need

are you implying i am too stupid to make my own decisions?

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You may get your wife pregnant / become pregnant yourself,

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i'm not married and a male, so no

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. Additionally, risk pooling means that sometimes you'll pay for care you don't need, just like everyone else.

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but why does this have to be a legal requirement? why can't i contract with my insurance companies like i did pre-ACA and not be subject to that risk pool? why am i forced, BY LAW (not contract) to pay for things i'll literally never need?

If you get hit by a truck, make sure you call me and not SFP

(Just joking, Platsemeierrrrrrrrr)

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i still want a liberal-progressive poster to explain to me why people like me are the ones who suffer, after doing everything the way we're supposed to.

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You didn't earn that.

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You didn't earn that.

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i have a good response to that