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Andy McCarthy: Acosta’s sweetheart deal likely to foreclose Epstein’s SDNY prosecution

Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:22 pm
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Double-jeopardy rules almost certainly prohibit settling a federal case and then prosecuting it again in federal court.


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I’ll spare you a few hundred words of critique on Acosta’s indecorous performance. Instead, to cut to the chase, I do not believe we can yet total up the wages of the sweetheart deal he cut for Epstein while he was U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida (SD-Florida). The commentariat is glibly assuming the courts will give the feds a second bite at the apple by allowing the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) to prosecute the charges that Acosta forfeited. I don’t think so.


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While the SDNY indictment may be new, Epstein’s crimes are not. They are the same offenses from which Acosta agreed to spare Epstein from federal prosecution if he pled guilty to state prostitution charges — which Epstein proceeded to do, in reliance on Acosta’s commitment. There is thus a very good chance, based on the Constitution’s guarantee against double jeopardy, that the SDNY case against Epstein will be voided by the SD-Florida non-prosecution agreement (non-pros).

To be sure, the SDNY has a counterargument, and it will be vigorously made. It has two components. First, there is language in the non-pros that appears to limit the agreement to SD-Florida, to wit: “prosecution in this District for these offenses shall be deferred in favor of prosecution by the State of Florida”


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Therefore, prosecutors will argue that the 2007 SD-Florida non-pros does not bar a 2019 SDNY indictment arising out of the same conduct and charging the same offenses.

I’m skeptical . . . and I think the SDNY is, too, notwithstanding the brave face prosecutors put on this week. They have carefully drafted an indictment far narrower than the SD-Florida’s contemplated case. If prosecutors really believed that there was no double-jeopardy problem, they’d have no such hesitation: They’d throw everything the FBI ever had at this sociopath.
They know they are on thin ice.


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I suspect it is too thin. There is a great deal in the non-pros that cuts against the suggestion that it was limited to the SD-Florida. Moreover, unlike Professor Jonathan Turley (among others), I believe the Supreme Court’s recent double-jeopardy ruling — in the Gamble case (addressed in this column), which involved the “dual sovereignty” doctrine — hurts, rather than helps, the SDNY’s position.


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With astonishing chutzpah on Tuesday, Acosta tweeted that he is “pleased that NY prosecutors are moving forward with a case based on new evidence.” In point of fact, the non-pros he authorized was patently designed to foreclose the possibility of any federal prosecution of Epstein.

Notice that he says he’s glad the SDNY has found “new evidence.” You know why he has to say new evidence? Because he is not in a position to say the SDNY has found a new offense.
If the SDNY had a new offense, prosecutors would have charged it and avoided the double-jeopardy bar. Instead, they have apparently collected new evidence of the same old offense on which Acosta already gave away the store.


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New evidence that merely bolsters proof of an already prosecuted crime is insufficient.


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SDNY and SD-Florida Are Parts of the Same Sovereign


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While successive prosecutions by different sovereigns do not violate the letter of the Fifth Amendment, they are in tension with its double-jeopardy clause’s conception of fundamental fairness. Because of that, despite the dual-sovereignty doctrine, many states do not permit successive prosecutions if a person has already been tried by federal authorities or those of another state. That’s how seriously we take double jeopardy.

Now, contrast Epstein’s case. It is because of dual sovereignty that Epstein’s top-shelf legal team worked in 2007 to dispose of state and federal liability simultaneously. The avoidance of successive prosecutions is precisely what he bargained for — he pled guilty and served time on state charges on the condition (to which Acosta, on behalf of the Justice Department, agreed) that there would be no federal prosecution.

Consequently, the issue presented by the new SDNY indictment is not dual sovereignty; it is straightforward double jeopardy. SD-Florida and SDNY are different federal venues, but they are part of the same sovereign.

That sovereign, the United States, is now attempting to proceed with a second prosecution for the same offense.



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I do not believe this Supreme Court would approve successive prosecutions by different districts of the same sovereign. And that is significant here. In the double-jeopardy context, the constitutional violation is not just to convict or acquit a defendant a second time; it is to subject him to any facets of prosecution for a previously prosecuted offense.


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Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:26 pm to
His legal arguments are sound.

With everything breaking, surely they’d uncover a new offense, right?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:27 pm to
Our legal system is too slow, too safeguarded, and too much of a labyrinth of fine print
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:27 pm to
I think Andy is correct here. Need a new offense, not new evidence of already prosecuted offense.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:28 pm to
You would think.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:30 pm to
Not applicable here y'all.


Ep was convicted on STATE charges.


Also, these are new accusations.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:30 pm to
Wouldn't any offenses commited after the plea deal, even if similar, be subject to new prosecution.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:31 pm to
His point about the SDNY and SD-Florida being the same thing IE the same sovereign, the United States Government, is a damn strong one and one that's hard if not impossible to reconcile.

There's a reason why on every indictment against a criminal the feds charge, it shows Defendant v. United States, not Defendant v. SDNY or Defendant v. SDFL, just United States.

It's reasonable logic to conclude that when Acosta gave Epstein that deal, that mean the United States government made that deal, not the Southern district of Florida, no, the United States itself as the districts are just middlemen. And that fact is further compounded by the fact that this deal had approval from DOJ headquarters and the FBI director himself.
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Not applicable here y'all.


Ep was convicted on STATE charges.


Wrong, bruh. He talks about that under dual sovereignty
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:32 pm to
Can’t wait for the Q spin if Epstein walks
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:32 pm to
Pretty sure all they need is a new victim to come forward and game over.

And I recall the DOJ has indicated several more have come forward since the arrest was announced.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Wrong, bruh. He talks about that under dual sovereignty


Her goes into that a bit further and its well reasoned.

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As we’ve noted, it is true that there is Second Circuit authority for the proposition that a prosecutor’s agreement in one federal district is not necessarily binding on a prosecutor in another federal district. Yet there is not universal agreement on this point. And even in Second Circuit double-jeopardy jurisprudence, a conviction or acquittal in one district will bar a successive prosecution in another district for the same offense. It has never made sense to me that double-jeopardy principles protect a defendant who has been convicted or acquitted by a jury, but not one whose case has been disposed of by a plea or non-pros agreement with a prosecutor that has the same effect.

In any event, the Second Circuit authority will have to be reconsidered in light of the various opinions in Supreme Court’s recent Gamble decision. That case involved a federal prosecution following a state conviction for the same crime. As discussed in my aforementioned column, we reluctantly abide multiple prosecutions for the same misconduct, despite our double-jeopardy principles, only because the laws of two different sovereigns — state and federal — are implicated. Even though the crime may be the same (e.g., illegal possession of a gun), there are two separate offenses because an offense is the violation of each sovereign’s separate criminal code and jurisdiction.

While successive prosecutions by different sovereigns do not violate the letter of the Fifth Amendment, they are in tension with its double-jeopardy clause’s conception of fundamental fairness. Because of that, despite the dual-sovereignty doctrine, many states do not permit successive prosecutions if a person has already been tried by federal authorities or those of another state. That’s how seriously we take double jeopardy.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Wouldn't any offenses commited after the plea deal, even if similar, be subject to new prosecution.

Yes, new crimes = new arrest/prosecution.

If you kill someone and then kill another person, that’s a new crime. It doesn’t matter that they are both murder.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:36 pm to
That's what I was saying.


These are new accusations.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Wouldn't any offenses commited after the plea deal, even if similar, be subject to new prosecution
. That’s what the feds need here
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:39 pm to
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That's what I was saying.


These are new accusations.


For the same crime.

There's a reason why Acosta said "new evidence" and "new testimony" in his tweets a few days ago, not new crimes.

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The crimes committed by Epstein are horrific, and I am pleased that NY prosecutors are moving forward with a case based on new evidence.


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Now that new evidence and additional testimony is available, the NY prosecution offers an important opportunity to more fully bring him to justice.


The point of this column still stands.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:39 pm to
And it’s also what they have.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:41 pm to
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His legal arguments are sound.


I'm not a lawyer and I am inclined not to read all that stuff above. But Acosta was the US Attorney taking care of issues in Florida I believe. That was 12 years ago. The current indictments are in NYC being handled by SDNY. Though we can't be subjected to double jeopardy in our country, a felon having pled to a single charge is not immune from future crimes. Epstein is now paying the price for those future crimes he had not committed 12 years ago. PoliBoard attorneys, am I correct?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19064 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:44 pm to
I’m not an attorney but if he took a plea and then got caught violating that agreement by continuing to engage in said activity, I would think that would void the original plea deal. Violate the terms of your plea and you open yourself up to new charges including those you avoided by taking a deal.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146946 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:45 pm to
Which means none of the people in bed with this sick freak will be convicted; or all of govt and Hollywood would shake like an earthquake. Acosta is out of the picture now but I think the DOJ framed the sweetheart deal.
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