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re: Andy McCarthy: Acosta’s sweetheart deal likely to foreclose Epstein’s SDNY prosecution

Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:47 pm to
Be careful, you will get the thread anchored if you dare Question.
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Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53874 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:48 pm to
So if you agree to a deal with me over a bank robbery I can continue to rob banks under that same agreement. bullshite!
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:48 pm to
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I'm not a lawyer and I am inclined not to read all that stuff above.


Then nothing really needs to be further said from you and you should bow out.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147379 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:50 pm to
Papers were signed DOJ at the time was involved. We don't even know what Epstein gave them on the financial crisis-to cop the plea deal. No one was arrested, Obama fined the fat cats and the money was funneled to Castro for Obama's community organizing garbage. Bush surely didn't put any fat cat financial crisis actors in jail.
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147379 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:55 pm to
If McCarthy says this I tend to trust his inner knowledge. We shall see though. But many have said if the politicos et al... were also going to be convicted it would have been when it was unsealed...
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15217 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Then nothing really needs to be further said from you and you should bow out.


Ok, on to a more interesting thread. Epstein will be tried by the way.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147379 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:10 pm to
If indictments for all the bad players are sealed they would have been unsealed with Epstein's indictment. Also heard that the OIG report was a dud slap in the wrist it is all up to Barr.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:30 pm to
Just to be clear, you are saying that given the following:

Epstein was accused of rape/trafficking by A, B, C. He reached a plea deal.

Epstein is later accused of rape/trafficking by D, E, F.

Because Epstein is being accused of the same crime, by different victims, they are not allowed justice because he previously struck a deal over crimes with different victims?


I feel like something must be getting lost in translation.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147379 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:37 pm to
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SDNY and SD-Florida Are Parts of the Same Sovereign
And I thought I read that Acosta was told to stand down back when the DOJ had this... Who at the DOJ let Epstein off? It's politics in the courts protecting govt's asses.

It is like when the DC Madam was going to release her black book; and she was suddenly arrested for being a madam in prostitution and then was so sad about going to jail for something she had done for probably 20 years she hung herself in her mothers shed in Fla.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:38 pm to
Not sure of the constitutionality of the law itself, but I've read that the plea deal was thrown out by a federal judge because Acosta was required under federal law to consult the victims before any plea deal was reached and he not only didn't consult the victims but he also hid the plea agreement from them.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147379 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:40 pm to
If the plea deal was thrown out why did Epstein only do 18 mos and was let out early?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:44 pm to
From what I've read, it was thrown out after Epstein served 13 months on a motion by the victims.

I'm sure that Epstein will be given credit for his previous time served if he's resentenced in a subsequent trial.
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 6:55 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15217 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:47 pm to
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I'm sure that Epstein will be given credit for his previous time served if he's resentenced in a subsequent trial.


I'd say sentenced, not resentenced.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 6:49 pm to

From this linked ARTICLE.....


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In February, U.S. District Court Judge Kenneth Marra ruled that Acosta, then the top federal prosecutor in Mami, had violated federal law by concealing the non-prosecution agreement from Epstein's victims.

Marra said it was "particularly problematic" that prosecutors decided to "conceal the existence" of the agreement and to "mislead the victims to believe that federal prosecution was still a possibility." And they told the victims to "have patience relative to an investigation about which it had already bound itself not to prosecute."
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:06 pm to
what happened to the standard that a competent prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich if need be. Epstein has wallowed I n enough crap to provide many other courses of action
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19713 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:12 am to
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For the same crime.
it's not the same crime if the victims are different
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:17 am to
State court in the house ?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131478 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:39 am to
Epstein was never the target of SDNY.

Causing chaos in Trumps cabinet was the end game.

They will wind up giving Epstein a medal before they drop the charges.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:43 am to
What is the effect of the recent SCOTUS decision that permits double jeopardy?
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48506 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:44 am to
My guess is that Jeff Epstein does not receive any sentence that includes jail time. He has a chance for complete acquittal.
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