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re: Amber Rose speech was the best damn speech of the nite.i didnt know who that girl was

Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:14 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49548 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:14 am to
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She was there, says she has been changed, and spoke her heart.

This should be welcomed.

have zero idea who this is - but it is the way all humans come together for a higher purpose.

If you are using her to denote acceptance of some unproductive lifestyle then I would not support it = may accept it as a 'political reality' but certainly not champion it.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55665 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:15 am to
He is not right about of any of it. He became a stumbling block last night.


Van Jones is melting because of her speaking "she can split the dem vote"

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93423 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:15 am to
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The message morphed to a "when you clean your life up on your own, then you can come to Jesus" .

Talk about the cart in front of a horse!
jjdoc gets it
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:17 am to
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The more people realize that this isn't about left or right, but about restoring common sense and making rational decisions - then we can move forward. The country needs some sense of grounding again. It's been adrift for too long hyped on false promises issued by shysters in the media just trading the American soul for profits.

We are owned by various corporations - whether it's pharmaceutical, weapons production, insurance, banking, etc. Americans, need to demand that we not get screwed in the process as politicians and multi-nationals extort our wealth.


Your post is fine and all but the emboldened part stands out. You're right, we're not a grounded country. A society needs some measure of social and cultural discipline and we're losing it.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55665 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:19 am to
I'm not the only person that needed Jesus. And I am thankful that Christ did not look at me and my rebellious state and say "as soon as you clean up your life, I will accept your prayer of repentance "


Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
8674 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:19 am to
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In March of this year, she said she was an atheist, that Satanism was the most logical of religions, that women should have sex with 100s of men and never be shamed for it, and that she was Pro-Abortion with no limitations whatsoever.


Yeah, but she ain't on the GOP ticket or platform committee. She gave a speech. If she can siphon votes from the Dems I can listen to a 5 min speech from someone I don't generally align with.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:22 am to
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11621 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:24 am to
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I'll get roasted but... The Republican party is giving up all pretenses by having a stripper with an only fans account speak at the RNC. Vote pandering at its finest.


You mean like this? Did Amber actually strip at the convention?

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55665 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:24 am to
Matt Walsh is the one disappointing people. He had horrible and damaging comments all night.

As a radically born again Christian, he is pushing people away from the Cross. He is demanding that sinners stay sinners and in their lane. And that is the
Pharisees way.

Priestly purity
The idea that Jews should adopt Temple rituals and priestly purity into their daily lives.



That is what Matt Walsh was last night. He turned people away from Christ by condemning them instead of having dialogue with them to present Christ. Instead he told them they were unworthy.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:25 am to
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Being a PK, I can tell you that the only way to move people towards Christ is to engage them and allow them to see Christ.

The church has been off for a long time in that respect.

The message morphed to a "when you clean your life up on your own, then you can come to Jesus" .

Talk about the cart in front of a horse!


You're conflating politics and Christianity while claiming others are doing so.

The RNC isn't seeking to draw people to Christ by accepting them as they are and working to show them Christ. They're trying to expand their political power base by neutering some of the stronger and more orthodox positions typically held by Republicans/conservatives.

I'm not particularly worked up about yesterday because this was always the bargain with Trump's takeover of the party. Trump is most likely a secularist, most of the RNC (regardless of Trump) probably are too, and they are willing to slowly sell out the faith elements of the party platform in an attempt to draw more people into the fold. It's a fleeting exchange, it may work, but it'll ultimately water down the party into something even thinner than it already is. But again, that isn't some revelation (or shouldn't be).

But I'm also not going to ask faithful Christians looking for a political home to ignore it or not to be discouraged by it (other than to tell them that the RNC and Trump and the like aren't the source of your hope or encouragement).
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70823 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:28 am to
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8206 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:28 am to


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If you are using her to denote acceptance of some unproductive lifestyle then I would not support it =


Not sure why it wasn't clear that I am specifically NOT calling for acceptance of an immoral lifestyle. The beginning of my post was meant to show that a change has to happen and that blind, open validation of someone or their actions isn't okay.

What I began with was--

With an emphasis on them coming "following", "being changed" as opposed to the concept of being "included" as is and just validated in their ways.

Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9553 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:30 am to
I wanted Brandi Love!
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55665 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:33 am to
No, I am address the Christian base that people like Matt Walsh is discouraging.

A theocracy is what? You do know that Matt Walsh has that in his personal platform on X. That is politics and Christianity.


My point is clear, that if theocracy is your stance, his methodology last night harmed Christ and pointed no one towards Christ.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:36 am to
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No, I am address the Christian base that people like Matt Walsh is discouraging.

A theocracy is what? You do know that Matt Walsh has that in his personal platform on X. That is politics and Christianity.


My point is clear, that if theocracy is your stance, his methodology last night harmed Christ and pointed no one towards Christ.


I'm not really following

But if you're saying that Matt Walsh is pro-Christian nationalism and the comments last night don't help his cause, ok.

But the alternative - which is endorsing the RNC's effort to draw the party away from its Christian underpinnings - is also not helpful to Matt Walsh's cause.

There is no secret goal of the RNC to become an arms wide-open party that can then gently share the Gospel by act or example. That may be a good idea of how to proceed if you are pro Christian Nationalism, but that's not what is happening in the MAGA-era RNC.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1734 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:37 am to
Yes, it's very apparent most of the dooming and pushback is coming from the Gator Cult. Everyone knows that.

Cryptid Bot has been coping and crying ever since Trump picked JD. I wonder why he's so upset?!?
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6392 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:37 am to
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quote:
hmm, seems like I remember someone else welcoming sinners, thieves and prostitutes to their events.

That was clever.


Yet again comparing Trump to the Almighty....sad
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:43 pm to
DSLs
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Used to be the party of serious people ......now ....


You're in no position to criticize any political party, DNC Biden voting fig.
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