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re: All of our "allies" deny Trumps request for help

Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17238 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:21 am to
Fighting Russia and Islam is one and the same because Islam is one of three official Russian religions and Moscow is the most Muslim city in Europe (unless you consider Turkey to be part of Europe).
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5351 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:23 am to
Ukraine and Iran are not the same situation regardless of what anybody in any administration may try and claim.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90530 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:23 am to
Paris: The French capital has the highest number of Muslims in Europe, with estimates suggesting around 2.5 million Muslims residing in the metropolitan area. This significant population is attributed to historical immigration patterns and the city's role as a cultural and economic hub.
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London: Following Paris, London is another major city with a large Muslim community, estimated to be around 1.5 million. The diverse nature of London's population contributes to its vibrant Muslim community, which includes individuals from various ethnic backgrounds.
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Berlin: The German capital also hosts a substantial Muslim population, with estimates ranging from 300,000 to 500,000 Muslims. Berlin's history of migration and its status as a major European city have fostered a growing Muslim community.
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Marseille: This French port city is known for its significant Muslim population, which is estimated to be around 10-15% of the city's total population, reflecting the historical ties between France and North Africa.
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Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:25 am to
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Why is NATO a thing again?


To mutually defend North America and Europe. The Straits of Hormuz is not in either of those areas. Also we did not invoke Article 5 so NATO does not really come into play. With that being said it is a shitty thing for our allies to do and I am quickly reevaluating my opinion on the pros/cons of the USA being in NATO.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47569 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:41 am to
Because we fund them? And they’ve made a commitment to support campaigns such as these.

Make up your closed little minds. Either we don’t need alliances or we do.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27173 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:55 am to
The whole abandon NATO thing would be bad bad optics for us to withdraw from. That is the primary reason we have not pulled out of NATO.

The help open the straight was in large part to show the US citizens that Nato member do not have our back despite the USA being the only thing that has prevented Russia from reaching their objectives in Ukraine.

The US population because they are lied to by the MSM and largely ignore news in Europe do not know the the UK and even France is now run as a pro islamic state/anti-western civilization state.

They do not know that Germany is not far behind them.

We will pull out of NATO eventually assuming the trends in Europe continue. I can see the US aligning with some of the other European nations like Poland, Italy and Hungary while cutting ties with the big three in the EU.

Not a prediction on that last paragraph but I can see it happening and not be shocked when it does.

I can also see the EU changing course and fixing their countries. Time will tell.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1601 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:31 pm to
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Why is NATO a thing again?


NATO is a defensive alliance.

He's not saying they HAVE TO HELP because they're in NATO, he's saying "Help us secure your oil or we're gonna take it all over and make you pay double for it, in addition to making you pay for your own defense".



They'll bend the knee as they always do.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 12:34 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27236 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:35 pm to
Anyone who supports NATO doesn't understand just how powerful the US Military is when fully unleashed.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2048 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:40 pm to
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Ukraine and the Iranian conflict are very different. We initiated this one……


Obama started Ukraine by breaking the Budapest Memorandum when he helped depose Viktor Yanukovych.

Victoria Nuland was Obama's shill in the Ukraine.
During the Maidan Uprising in Ukraine, Nuland made appearances supporting the Maidan protesters. In December 2013, she said in a speech to the US–Ukraine Foundation that the U.S. had invested over $5 billion on democratic skills and institutions, civic participation, and good governance in Ukraine since 1991. She stated that these were preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations. The Russian government seized on this statement, claiming it was evidence the U.S. was orchestrating a color revolution.

Putin used Obama's overt illegal involvement in Ukraine as a reason to invade Crimea.

Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18539 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:33 pm to
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We were setup by Israel. They want us to fail. The US will lose influence in the Middle East and the petro dollar will be done


daddy Trump sold us out or he is just senile


Y'all are some miserable morons. Just say you don't have clue what is going on. At least that would be honest.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14023 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:39 pm to
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Ukraine and the Iranian conflict are very different. We initiated this one……

Since we didn’t start the Ukraine one, we need our money back.

We’ll finish what has been a continuous terrorist attack against Americans since at least 1979.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18539 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Stop it with this 350D chess shite… none of this is planned … Trump is bumbling his way through this as expected.. Hegseth has proven to everyone why you don’t pick a tv personality to head the DOD… they’ve ran out of ideas and are actively crowdsourcing for a solution… frickin ridiculous


Ill take shite lepa made up for 500 Alex.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31601 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:41 pm to
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Trump warned NATO in today's news.

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

This. Just getting them on record for not having our back. Now we can defund NATO.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7567 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:43 pm to
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The help open the straight was in large part to show the US citizens that Nato member do not have our back despite the USA being the only thing that has prevented Russia from reaching their objectives in Ukraine.

Yes, exactly, because we have an educated and inquisitive population that is interested in the political ramifications of NATO countries not working with the US
Asking 1000 people in a random mall who NATO is and what do they do might get more responses asking how to spell NATO than who they are
Posted by ohnoletsgeaux
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
122 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:44 pm to
Sometimes that happens when you show/tell those allies that you don't want/need them over and over.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89000 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:46 pm to
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England and France’s new visitors will produce Prime ministers that have nukes and want it blow us up.


We’re a short generation away from the whole facade collapsing and becoming enemies with these “allies”.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16055 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:47 pm to
WTF does old Kier think he's going to do to "work with us?" Most of the tiny Royal Navy can't be put to sea because it's in maintenance.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8335 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:48 pm to
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WTF does old Kier going to do to "work with us?" Most of the tiny Royal Navy can't be put to sea because it's in maintenance.


It's all talk.
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