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re: All of our "allies" deny Trumps request for help

Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:24 am to
Posted by texas tortilla
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:24 am to
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if this is true, the lincoln has moved back to over 600 miles from the coast of iran. must be worried about drone attacks. imagine what oil tankers are worried about.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23243 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:28 am to
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Every country will now make a deal with Iran which recognizes their right to exist and control the Strait. Iran will never be challenged again after this.

Whether you agree with our war in Iran or not Donald Trump has made clear he doesn’t GAF about their agreements or care what they think.

We are post NATO so long as Trump or the AF wing is in the WH and everyone over there knows it, they’re just not ready to acknowledge it yet because they can’t defend themselves without us.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:29 am to
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Trumps request for help


Trump can’t even convey a coherent reason why we at war with Iran… help with what??
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:30 am to
The carrier is quivering!
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37748 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:31 am to
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All of our "allies" deny Trumps request for help


Link?


HHTM had a thread saying we were about to announce a coalition
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:31 am to
The knives are out for Trump.

Just go finish this ourselves, it’s gonna take a lot longer though.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13199 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:32 am to
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It is only beneficial to people in the United States involved in the War Industry. For the rest of us it is just more debt and more inflation.



True, however same could be said of the Iranian War.

What is in the interest of the United States as a state operating within the global political system is not necessarily aligned with what is in the interest of the people within it.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:34 am to
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Just go finish this ourselves


Finish what ourselves???
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
29921 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:34 am to
Whatever we want to do. Why not?
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 7:35 am
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13199 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:35 am to
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Our military has plans for Canada invading us and you think the military doesn’t have a plan for the most obvious reaction in world history?



From what I've heard in my days in the army:

They've played out a war game like this many times and restarted it once because the red force commander decided to use asymmetric warfare techniques that blue force was not expecting or were poorly prepared to handle.

Hmmmmmmmmm
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:37 am to
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Whatever we want to do. Why not?


What is it we want to do?… what are you even suggesting???
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:37 am to
I'm a bit perturbed that he even asked for help. It's embarrassing.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38440 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:39 am to
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If they had a great plan, why is he having to beg France, UK, even China to come help secure it?


Sets up an excuse to leave nato later.

“We asked for help, you refused. We have continued to fund nato while asking politely for you to increase funding. If you don’t come when we ask for help, why should we stay?”
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6265 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:43 am to
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if this is true


Your going to quote a Russian propaganda “news” platform that is citing chinese propaganda which is citing Iranian propaganda and ask if it’s true?

Sack up and be an American
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4570 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:44 am to
wasn't it just a few weeks ago i read that iran and china were near a deal for iran to buy ship killer missiles from china. supposedly dangerous enough to take out an aircraft carrier. now we have trump asking china to send ships to help open up the straits. the trump trip to china next month should be wild.
Posted by 4Bagger
Member since Jan 2025
775 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:44 am to
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Ukraine and the Iranian conflict are very different. We initiated this one……


You're wrong. We started both.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47561 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:45 am to
Do people get it yet? Our traditional western allies are no longer reliable, and probably haven’t been for 20 years. Trump wants to build new coalitions, neutralize bad actors in the hemisphere, and create strategic defensive positions around the homeland.

It all makes sense if you aren’t an unhinged, reflexive, anti-Trump lunatic.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:46 am to
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wasn't it just a few weeks ago i read that iran and china were near a deal for iran to buy ship killer missiles from china.
You think they Fed Ex overnight air those bad boys?

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now we have trump asking china to send ships to help open up the straits. the trump trip to china next month should be wild.



Money says China cancels that one.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6067 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:46 am to
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Sets up an excuse to leave nato later.


Stop it with this 350D chess shite… none of this is planned … Trump is bumbling his way through this as expected.. Hegseth has proven to everyone why you don’t pick a tv personality to head the DOD… they’ve ran out of ideas and are actively crowdsourcing for a solution… frickin ridiculous
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90515 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:46 am to
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Stop it with this 350D chess shite… none of this is planned … Trump is bumbling his way through this as expected.. Hegseth has proven to everyone why you don’t pick a tv personality to head the DOD… they’ve ran out of ideas and are actively crowdsourcing for a solution… frickin ridiculous
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