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re: Alex Jones Sues The Onion and Sandy Hook Families Over ‘Rigged’ Auction of Infowars
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:32 am to JimEverett
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:32 am to JimEverett
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Creditors are going to get more from the Onion's bid, and the Trustee's job is to get the most for the creditors.
That is the Trustee’s argument but this kind of thing apparently has little, if any, precedent for how it was done.
If nothing else, it may be tied up in litigation for years to determine if agreeing to forego a judgment in that amount is considered a legal bid.
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If Laken rileys family sued their county for bringing in that murderer and were awarded 100m dollars, most here would celebrate it.
Uh what in the Wizard of OZ scarecrow is this one? Would the county have a direct hand in the death of Riley? How on earth does Jones have a hand in the death of those kids?
I'll give you one closer to help you (even though Jones didnt celebrate it, he said it didn't happen). But, Should leftists that celebrated the death of Corey Comperatore be sued for 37 million? How about the ones that said it didn't happen?
I wouldn't be for that, they didn't kill him. It's tasteless but they can say it.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:33 am to JimEverett
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The Trustee is going to win unless there is some procedural misstep he took. Creditors are going to get more from the Onion's bid, and the Trustee's job is to get the most for the creditors.
Yeah if it's based in how it was just described, the creditors will end up with less debt owed, which is important for a bankruptcy.
However, I can see them perhaps having to do it again if there were allegations of untruthfulness, but the creditors can spam their waived debt beyond anything anyone (other than an Elon) would pay.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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Gotcha. Pretty smart.
Only if it works. And it is already stayed for now and likely to be appealed if allowed to stand.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Well, his treatment of the Sandy Hook families was objectively horrible.
I never followed Alex Jones or Infowars so I have no idea what his Sandy Hook claims were other than what was reported by other media. So with that preference, my belief is that the media publicity of Alex Jones claims were far more responsible for any bad treatment to Sandy Hook families than Alex Jones himself and Infowars.
He may have a large audience but that audience was contained to his environment, and unlikely any sandy hook families were his followers. If they were, they simply could no longer listen to him. The liberal media in coordination with lawfare attorneys and judges made this out to be waay more than it was.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:36 am to SoWhat
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But, Should leftists that celebrated the death of Corey Comperatore be sued for 37 million?
News organizations that purposely mislead for ratings absolutely should be sued by victims, and taken for all they are worth.
thats how you fix the system, by making them pay.
Everything in this world comes down to simple economics. You control what is allowed and not allowed by finances. If we want news groups to stop misleading, lawsuits are the way, not legislation.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:38 am to fwtex
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He may have a large audience but that audience was contained to his environment, and unlikely any sandy hook families were his followers.
His loyal army of lizard dipshits harassed the families in person and on social media for years.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:41 am to teke184
just to be clear, the Sandy Hook families are not foregoing a judgment. The best way to put it, even if it not 100% accurate, is that the Sandy Hook people are trading the full amount they would receive from the sale of infowars assets for equity in the future company. That is not unusual at all. In fac, the system encourages it because they want the creditors to get the most they can possibly get.
What might give Jones a win is if the sale and/or the bid violated the terms of the court's Order authorizing the Trustee to sell the assets. Hard to believe the Trustee would violate that order, but stranger things have happened.
What might give Jones a win is if the sale and/or the bid violated the terms of the court's Order authorizing the Trustee to sell the assets. Hard to believe the Trustee would violate that order, but stranger things have happened.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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MAGA influecers have already given yall your talking points
Fail. The 1st Amendment trumps whatever "truth" a group of pearl-clutching New England jurors might choose to believe. My opinions on this go back way farther than the MAGA movement.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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News organizations that purposely mislead for ratings absolutely should be sued by victims, and taken for all they are worth.
thats how you fix the system, by making them pay.
Everything in this world comes down to simple economics. You control what is allowed and not allowed by finances. If we want news groups to stop misleading, lawsuits are the way, not legislation.
Let lawfare be the lead tank in the war on speech. That has been the prevailing thoughts of the left. They have roundly been lamenting about the power of social media and the dying influence of traditional media. Noting something "should be done" and apparently this is it. Use law to curtail those pesky rights. Got it. "Control what is to be allowed". That sums up everything we need to know about you.
Funny thing is, if that judgement had been 26 million, 52 million or 130 million. This thread doesn't even exist. People would accept it but as it was, we all know what it was, it was what you just laid out. Control speech. That's where muh Maga has a problem.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:48 am to Oswald
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Fail. The 1st Amendment trumps whatever "truth"
This is a civil lawsuit.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:49 am to SoWhat
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Let lawfare be the lead tank in the war on speech
This isnt a free speech issue.
No govt is forcing him to quit, or putting him in prison
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If Jones had lied about me if my son or daughter were gunned down, Jones would be running for his life.
No he wouldn't and neither would anyone else.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:51 am to BuckyCheese
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No he wouldn't and neither would anyone else.
Another projecting his inabilities on others.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
lol come at me bro.
What a clown.
What a clown.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:54 am to BuckyCheese
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ol come at me bro.
I dont deal with union flunkies.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
so much speculation read the petition and see why he was sued and exactly what was said. This wasn't him "Asking questions": I have no doubt if this happened to anyone on this board they would do the same thing to AJ.
LINK
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:00 pm to Dolphinepride
Mr Heslin has far more restraint than most here would have had.
5 years of that type of harassment, flat out lies and accusations.
I dont think anyone here can read this shite and not think Infowars deserves the worst it can get.
Edit: Owen Shroyer is a piece of shite.
5 years of that type of harassment, flat out lies and accusations.
I dont think anyone here can read this shite and not think Infowars deserves the worst it can get.
Edit: Owen Shroyer is a piece of shite.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:09 pm to Pettifogger
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I don't think there is anything based about defending Jones over Sandy Hook
Right.
It seems odd that the goal of the auction wasn’t to get the most money to the families. It would’ve resulted in zero dollars going to the families.
Why would a judge sign off on that?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:10 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Jones is a piece of shite, and he definitely "made his bed" so to speak, but that doesn't mean laws and procedures get to be ignored in response. If all of this is supposed to be "in the best interest of the families", then they failed. Exposing those families to litigation through shady and/or illegal dealings is not in their best interests.
Jones is shitty and The Onion is shitty in this case.
This is a reasonable take. Upvote en route.
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