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Alabama to become first state in America to provide blanket immunity to Ivf clinics
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:27 pm
Thoughts?
In other states, ivf clinics can be found liable for negligence if they mishandle a couple’s embryo. Alabama is about to abolish that
If a corporation negligently lets a random stranger kill human embryos, should the parents of those embryos be able to sue that corporation?
Alabama lawmakers say no
I wasn’t a fan of the Alabama Supreme Court ruling, but this new law seems like an insane overreaction to that ruling, and will do more harm than good.
In other states, ivf clinics can be found liable for negligence if they mishandle a couple’s embryo. Alabama is about to abolish that
If a corporation negligently lets a random stranger kill human embryos, should the parents of those embryos be able to sue that corporation?
Alabama lawmakers say no
I wasn’t a fan of the Alabama Supreme Court ruling, but this new law seems like an insane overreaction to that ruling, and will do more harm than good.
quote:
In an email, Notre Dame law professor
@cartersnead
calls Alabama IVF bill "a shocking error in judgment that will have catastrophic results, including a cascade of unintended harmful consequences for IVF patients
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Liberals overreact to a weird case.
Conservatives overreact to the overreaction.
America.
Conservatives overreact to the overreaction.
America.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
That law (lawyers) got hooked up to the Medical Board of Alabama financially?
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Either a fertilized egg is a “baby” or it’s not. Get your shite together. Your lack of logical consistency confirms that conservatives are a bunch of ignorant clowns.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I guess the embryos will file suit under the equal protection clause. They are children after all.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Bottom line. Why are the courts and legislators stupid in Alabama?
That's a terrible bill and it won't pass on that form.
That's a terrible bill and it won't pass on that form.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Alabama: Let’s take something that nobody has a problem with and frick it all up.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:05 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:
Let’s take something that nobody has a problem with
Except people do have a problem with it. Conservatives have been on this insane warpath about how “life begins at conception!!!” If you take that stupid stance, the ruling in Alabama is the logical progression.
How is abandoning fertilized eggs different than abortion?
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:08 pm to reddy tiger
quote:
Except people do have a problem with it. Conservatives have been on this insane warpath about how “life begins at conception!!!” If you take that stupid stance, the ruling in Alabama is the logical progression.
How is abandoning fertilized eggs different than abortion?
It's not. But I've not met an anti-IVF conservative. I'm sure they exist.
I view the IVf exception just like folks argue for exceptions for when abortion is acceptable.
It's not different though to answer your question.
How's it different when a pregnant lady is killed and the murderer is charged with a double homicide? Life is a life.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
MAGA :)
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Republicans just can’t help themselves. Leave the entire abortion/ life topic alone until 2025. fricking idiots. Giving ammo to the crazy left child killers.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:32 pm to TigerAttorney
So this means no action for negligence or breach of contract. So parents who pay for IVF cannot recover if the embyros they paid for are destroyed through negligence. Do people read these bills, or not?
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:34 pm to reddy tiger
quote:
Except people do have a problem with it. Conservatives have been on this insane warpath about how “life begins at conception!!!” If you take that stupid stance, the ruling in Alabama is the logical progression.
How is abandoning fertilized eggs different than abortion?
IVF does not require abandoning fertilized eggs.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:43 pm to mikeybates
quote:
IVF does not require abandoning fertilized eggs.
But it’s widely accepted by the same people that claim fertilized eggs are babies and that because so, abortion is murder.
So your point is moot.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:45 pm to reddy tiger
quote:
But it’s widely accepted by the same people that claim fertilized eggs are babies and that because so, abortion is murder.
So your point is moot.
Right, because as I said, IVF can be performed with intentionally destroying any embryos.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:49 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:
That's a terrible bill and it won't pass on that form.
Bills passed both houses with almost identical language. One of the two will clear by early next week.
It has an expiration date, though. It's temporary until they can fix what the imbecile Tom Parker fricked up.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:54 pm to TigerAttorney
quote:
Leave the entire abortion/ life topic alone until 2025. fricking idiots. Giving ammo to the crazy left child killers.
The schizophrenic lack of philosophical consistency here is amazing.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:56 pm to reddy tiger
quote:
conservatives are a bunch of ignorant clowns.
Democrats overwhelmingly voted for this, dumbass.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:06 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:
Democrats overwhelmingly voted for this, dumbass.
Of course they did. Democrats are all about getting conservatives to go along with IVF, surrogacy, the whole industry. Once conservatives sign on to IVF, and all of the baby freezing and ultimately destroying that goes along with it, with what authority can they turn around and then condemn abortion?
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:24 pm to reddy tiger
quote:
Either a fertilized egg is a “baby” or it’s not. Get your shite together. Your lack of logical consistency confirms that conservatives are a bunch of ignorant clowns.
This is called checks and balances, dumbass. In any issue regardless of topic, the courts will make a ruling, the legislature will re-regislate, someone else will take it to court... This is how the system works.
But you got your weak punch in. Maybe go write "orange man bad' in your journal like ten times to feel good about yourself.
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