re: Ahmaud Arbery’s Final Minutes: What Videos and 911 Calls Show

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the McMichaels

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Fry ‘em

I just find it utterly amazing how the media and you people on this board will talk about a black dude getting killed by a white man like it’s earth shattering ground breaking news for days and days yet had it been two blacks shooting each other or black killing a white none of you would give one single F.




‘Murcia?

Jogging in long cargo shorts? Ugh.

Some observations:

1) Arbery was walking prior to going into the house under construction. He stopped, looked around, and seemed to sneak in.

Now, that doesn’t mean much as far as establishing his intent. He might have just wanted to look around again to see the progress. Lots of people do that. His instincts probably just told him that he should try not to be seen doing it.

However, this makes him look more suspicious to the neighbor who makes the initial 911 call. It’s reasonable to make that call.

2) When Arbery exits the house under construction, he appears to be sprinting. He probably saw that he was being watched by a guy talking on a phone. His sprinting out doubles down on his appearance of looking suspicious. It’s also a natural response to “getting caught” being somewhere you’re not supposed to be.

These points might seem like elementary observations and inconsequential, but I’d like to combine these observations with the understanding of the general air of suspicion in this racially charged culture we are living in.

If Arbery weren’t so sure that the white guys were out to get him, he might not have acted so suspiciously and might not have charged the guy with the gun.

If the white guys didn’t see black guys as instant crime suspects in their neighborhood, they wouldn’t jump to conclusions and give chase with guns in hand.

Our stereotypes become self-fulfilling.

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If Arbery weren’t so sure that the white guys were out to get him, he might not have acted so suspiciously and might not have charged the guy with the gun. If the white guys didn’t see black guys as instant crime suspects in their neighborhood, they wouldn’t jump to conclusions and give chase with guns in hand. Our stereotypes become self-fulfilling.

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This is a great point.

Gladwell’s “Talking to Strangers” does a great job with the overarching subject of what we think we know in our interactions with people versus the reality. We’re really bad at judging liars (when they’re good liars). We’re really bad at jumping to snap conclusions. And in the wrong circumstance, it can all end horribly.

Black guy was walking down our dead end street yesterday. There are no black families on our road. There are three houses under construction.

The dude was wearing workout gear like he was actually cooling off from a real jog.

I paid him no mind. Had he been running from the construction sites, I would have likely tried to get a better look for a description but he would have survived.

Stereotypes matter for sure. But my guy actually looked the part of a jogger. His skin didn’t matter once the jogger stereotype was met.

ETA: he may have been Hispanic looking back on it. I didn’t really think about it after cool off from running was established.

If I'm the McMichaels I'm probably avoiding bringing up "stereotypes" in the defense.

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had it been two blacks shooting each other or black killing a white none of you would give one single F.

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Yeah, you really don't know what the frick you are talking about here...