re: AHCA Would Protect Only 5% of Those with Pre-Existing Conditions

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Why should I care? this does not affect me nor my family.

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A common leftist quote during the gay marriage debate.

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he bill's $23 billion in funding specifically for such people would cover just 110,000 Americans, according to the Avalere Health study released Thursday.

That's only 5 percent of the 2.2 million current enrollees in the individual insurance market with some type of pre-existing chronic condition.

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Let's do the math, shall we?

$23,000,000,000 / 110,000 = $209,090 per patient per year

$209,090 X 2,200,000 = $460,000,000,000 annually

$460,000,000,000 / $3,650,000,000,000 = .126

2,200,000 / 326,400,000 = .0067

In other words, you advocate that roughly 12.6% of the entire Federal budget should be allocated to the care and well-being of 0.67% of the total US population.

And that people with chronic pre-existing conditions deserve more of the Federal pie to take care of them than the entire budgets of the Departments of Education, Transportation, Justice, the VA and HUD combined.

I won't wait for your reply, because you never have anything substantive to say when confronted with facts.

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And what about those kids birn to parents are not responsible?

There are limits and mot everything is black and white.

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Killing children because of their parents' choices. Isn't that what abortionists do?

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My daughter (heart transplant) and I are absolutely terrified by this...especially when Louisiana is struggling financially

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The ACA wasnt going to help you either. Thats simply the truth. It was dead under its own weight. Had congress and Obama actually cared about things, they would have addressed it.

But the American people hot caught on the middle of "its my plan and it works damn it" and "im not going to lift a finger to help and the american people will turn on it" politics.

The reason I like Trump os because he is not focused on just an appearance fix.

He has called in Cummings because we all know that drugs prices are stupid. We all know a mri shouls be 8k ....

This is the last chance before we get single payer. Congress needs to get it together.

Good

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For a group known for loving concentrating power in a single all-powerful government, they sure do see how it can go badly all of a sudden.

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That's just it. They quickly forget that their "team" won't always be in power.

And... hell... as a republican... I'm no more comfortable with republicans running healthcare than democrats. They both suck at making personal decisions about people's life.

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In other words, you advocate that roughly 12.6% of the entire Federal budget should be allocated to the care and well-being of 0.67% of the total US population.

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"fairness".

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And that people with chronic pre-existing conditions deserve more of the Federal pie to take care of them than the entire budgets of the Departments of Education, Transportation, Justice, the VA and HUD combined.

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Kinda greedy isn't it?

I've convinced liberals are blind to what they are actually asking for.

The gay marriage argument. What harm is it doing to you?


The people dying in the streets argument. I want to know the same answer.

We've given them abortion and gay marriage but they still want to take, take, take.

They are like the Muslims playing the slow game until their numbers are sufficient enough to enact their end game.

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I've convinced liberals are blind to what they are actually asking for.

The gay marriage argument. What harm is it doing to you?

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How is this even close to being applicable in this case?

I have argued (and would continue to argue) about gay marriage being justified for a multitude of reasons, including your "what harm does it do you" argument. Because I think that's a prudent point; if two gay men get married in California, it literally has no impact on my life. And the impact it has on other people's lives is constrained, pretty much exclusively, to ADDING to the value of lives of the two gay men getting married.

The ACA repeal, as with gay marriage, has little-to-no impact on my life. My rates that I pay for my employee sponsored health insurance may go down slightly (yay me!), but beyond that. Meh. However, it has a profound, negative impact on the lives of many, many others.

I don't have a pre-existing condition. My children and wife don't either, thankfully, and are generally healthy. Nobody in my immediate family would be impacted substantially from the repeal. And yet, I can empathize with those who would be. I can understand that crushing people with bankruptcy because they can't afford to pay for their child's neurological disease would be completely awful. I can realize that saddling thousands (or millions) of families with sky rocketing debt and anxiety and sickness in the name of shaving some of the tax burden from society in the name of nothing more than "FREE COUNTRY" or "THEY SHOULD'VE PLANNED" or "frick YOU, I GOT MINE" seems pretty damn reprehensible to me.

Look, I get that health care insurance costs increased for some. Mainly, the upper middle class. My premiums are about a hundred bucks a month higher than they were a few years ago. But I'm okay with that because I see that the net benefit to society of having a healthier populace is worth it.

It's amazing to me that Republicans (generally) think that there's some sinister ulterior motive here around "stealing from the rich" or "getting freebies" or whatever. In the case of me and everybody I've ever talked to about this, it has to do with being empathetic to people who aren't in the same fortunate situation that we (or I) are.

I don't think the ACA, as it was in it's current form, was tenable long-term. But I think that the gist of it was correct. I would've been happy with unilateral support to modify it and make it more sustainable. But scrapping it to enact a rollback to a system that straight ignores the plight of a substantial portion of the population is wrong. It just is.

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Kids born 3 months from now with Type 1 diabetes are screwed though.

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How so?