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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:08 pm to 4cubbies
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I have legitimate questions about this: does the legislature have the ability to appoint (or declare by law) COC for every parish? It seems like it likely does. Why don’t they?
You keep saying the the legislature “appointed” a Clerk for Orleans Parish. Since that’s been repeatedly show to be false I’ll just let you re-read the dozen or so times it’s been answered.
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What discretion or framework was used to determine Civil should absorb Criminal’s duties and not vice versa? Do you think that’s relevant?
No, I don’t think it’s relevant,
Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:09 pm to dkreller
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What part of “it was announced before the election that the position would be dissolved and duties combined” do you not understand?
The part that doesn’t fit her narrative.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:12 pm to 4cubbies
Please cite the law which gives NOLA city council the power to create a parish COC position and appoint someone to it.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:15 pm to 4cubbies
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Why doesn’t the state appoint clerk of court in every parish?
Not every parish is a third world shithole like Orleans.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:27 pm to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
How many “crash outs” have you had in the last two weeks?
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:15 pm to Red Stick Rambler
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The part that doesn’t fit her narrative.
I mean that didn’t happen so why even respond? “It was announced…” who announced what?
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:RogerTheDrunk is a great example
Being old doesn't prevent it from being stupid.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:23 pm to Red Stick Rambler
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You keep saying the the legislature “appointed” a Clerk for Orleans Parish. Since that’s been repeatedly show to be false I’ll just let you re-read the dozen or so times it’s been answered.
The legislature passed a law changing the duties of one elected office to encompass the duties of what had been a separate elected office, after voters had already elected someone to perform those duties.
Your position seems to be: so what? The State has the authority to render the outcome of certain local elections politically meaningless, so voters just have to accept it.
Is that correct?
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:36 pm to 4cubbies
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The State has the authority to render the outcome of certain local elections politically meaningless, so voters just have to accept it.
Why is that so far-fetched to you?
I don't know what Louisiana's state constitution stipulates so I don't know whether that's correct or not, but it certainly could be.
This whole idea that voting is sacred and untouchable and "democracy" is the highest ideal possible is not what America was founded on. That's revisionist history IMO.
I'm very skeptical that the right to vote is even enumerated anywhere in the founding documents. Even statements like, "For the people, by the people" don't necessarily mean that IMO. I think they mean that ordinary citizens (not royalty) will occupy positions of governance...that's it.
People say the 15th Amendment enumerates the right to vote, but I don't think it does. I think it prohibits discrimination, as in, IF you allow your citizens to vote in any given election, you can't allow some and deny others on the basis of race.
If it is enumerated, I'll wager its only enumerated for voting for state legislatures, because state legislatures were supposed to have the vast majority of the power. So could the state legislature have the power to do what you're asking? I think so.
The idea was to choose your state representatives wisely.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:39 pm to 4cubbies
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after voters had already elected someone to perform those duties.
The plans to get rid of that office were announced before the election.
Y'all KNEW it was going to be done away with when y'all voted for him...knowing he wouldn't be serving in the role.
Your argument in all this is based on your "feels" bullshite.
Quit being a fricking Karen about going against the will of the voters.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:55 pm to 4cubbies
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The legislature passed a law changing the duties of one elected office to encompass the duties of what had been a separate elected office, after voters had already elected someone to perform those duties.
Your position seems to be: so what? The State has the authority to render the outcome of certain local elections politically meaningless, so voters just have to accept it.
You almost got it right this time; the legislature passed a law abolishing the position of criminal clerk and transferred those duties to another existing office with a duly elected incumbent. And the legislature did it in such a fashion that the dissolution took place simultaneously with the end of the prior clerk’s term and before his would-be successor took office.
The legislature’s authority to abolish the criminal clerk position - which exists in no parish other than Orleans - is clearly spelled out in a Constitutional provision adopted at a constitutional convention and approved by the voters more than fifty years ago. Under your logic the legislature could never abolish any position held by an elected official because, by definition, they would be abolishing a position held by someone who had been elected.
And to that I do, in fact, say “so what.”
Reasonable minds can disagree whether it was a good or bad decision - I have no problem with it - but your constant whining that this is some sort of constitutional crisis that warrants Federal Court intervention in a state law matter and that the New Orleans City Council somehow has the authority to appoint an interim Clerk and call a special election to replace Chelsea Napoleon in a position created by state law rather than a city ordinance is just a childish temper tantrum.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 5/13/26 at 11:20 pm to 4cubbies
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Your position seems to be: so what? The State has the authority to render the outcome of certain local elections politically meaningless, so voters just have to accept it.
Do you understand the history of the Louisiana state government? M
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:49 am to Red Stick Rambler
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THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD????
It's also redundant; my thread was posted about 30 minutes prior but everyone wants to argue with and trigger her more.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:17 am to 4cubbies
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I’m sorry that your party allegiance prevents you from thinking.
pot meet kettle
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:54 am to wackatimesthree
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This whole idea that voting is sacred and untouchable and "democracy" is the highest ideal possible is not what America was founded on. That's revisionist history IMO.
I guess it’s the blatant disregard for the uncontested outcome of a legitimate election that I’m grappling with. I also find the nonchalance from the board about this a bit disturbing after the years of tantrums about a “stolen election.”
quote:My representative did not vote to render the outcome of the election meaningless fwiw.
The idea was to choose your state representatives wisely.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:55 am to DMAN1968
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The plans to get rid of that office were announced before the election
Cite your evidence.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:09 am to 4cubbies
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I guess it’s the blatant disregard for the uncontested outcome of a legitimate election that I’m grappling with
Serious question: how do you reconcile the removal of Napoleon (a duly elected official), to be replaced with Johnson - a retired, not-elected-to-the-position of Clerk of Court?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:22 am to TD422
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Serious question: how do you reconcile the removal of Napoleon (a duly elected official), to be replaced with Johnson - a retired, not-elected-to-the-position of Clerk of Court?
And there it is: the New Orleans City Council actually did exactly what Cubbies claims (incorrectly) that the legislature did.
I seriously doubt Cubbies will even acknowledge this question.
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