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re: AG threatens 8 New Orleans leaders with removal from office in court clerk battle

Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:54 pm to
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Do you really not understand


I would ask you the same question.
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:57 pm to
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To highlight the Governor’s interference in local democratic governance


Damn, if the Governor is really trying to upend New Orleans politics, you'd think he'd choose a much more politically significant office than Criminal Clerk of Court.

Posted by SludgeFactory
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Damn, if the Governor is really trying to upend New Orleans politics, you'd think he'd choose a much more politically significant office than Criminal Clerk of Court.



This is like when fascist Trump was destroying free speech by "canceling" Jimmy Kimmel
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:01 pm to
I do understand, that's why I'm concerned. Voters elected a Clerk of Civil Court and a Clerk of Criminal Court. The State invalidated the outcome by eliminating the Criminal Clerk position and appointing the Civil Clerk to the assume the duties of the Criminal Clerk.

What do you dispute?
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:02 pm to
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Damn, if the Governor is really trying to upend New Orleans politics, you'd think he'd choose a much more politically significant office than Criminal Clerk of Court.



It's ok to invalidate the results of certain elections but not others? Ca you make a list of which elections can be invalidated?
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:05 pm to
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No one invalidated any election. The position was abolished.


The election was not invalidated by abolishing the office of the election and rendering the outcome obsolete. That's your claim here.

Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:07 pm to
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It's ok to invalidate the results of certain elections but not others? Ca you make a list of which elections can be invalidated?


How about this one?

AG Letter

ETA: Pick a letter on that page. Any letter. It appears the City Council and the Mayor wish to APPOINT RETIRED JUDGE JOHNSON, USURPING NAPOLEON AS THE ELECTED CLERK OF COURT!!!!!!!!!!

And by the way, lady, the point of my earlier post went WAY over your head. Just so you know.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:09 pm to
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The State invalidated the outcome by eliminating the Criminal Clerk position and appointing the Civil Clerk to the assume the duties of the Criminal Clerk.

What do you dispute?


I "dispute" that the State invalidated the outcome of an election; they merely did away with a position, which they had the full constitutional authority to do.

I also "dispute" that the State "appointed" the Civil Clerk to a "new" position; after dissolving the position of criminal clerk they merely transferred the duties formerly handled by the Criminal Clerk to the (duly elected) Civil Clerk. The legislature is constantly expanding and restricting the duties of offices it creates.

But again, this thread - which you started - is about the AG insisting that the New Orleans City Council does not have the authority to appoint an "interim" clerk or call an election to replace the current clerk of court. I would ask you to return to the point of your thread, but you've already admitted you don't know anything about election law and who gets to call elections.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:11 pm to
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Act 15 did not create a vacancy. It abolished the former criminal clerk’s office, transferred its authority, duties, records, and funds to the former civil clerk’s office, and renamed that continuing office the clerk of court for Orleans Parish.


"We did not create a new office. We just eliminated the office of one elected official and transferred all that elected official's duties to a different office so we didn't make a NEW office, we just changed the other office."

I can't believe people are arguing that New Orleanians voted both Chelsey Napoleon AND Calvin Duncan to perform the duties of Criminal Clerk of Court.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:12 pm to
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But again, this thread - which you started - is about the AG insisting that the New Orleans City Council does not have the authority to appoint an "interim" clerk or call an election to replace the current clerk of court. I would ask you to return to the point of your thread, but you've already admitted you don't know anything about election law and who gets to call elections.



Can you link your post clarifying election laws? I missed it somehow.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:12 pm to
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Do you work for the criminal clerks office or are you hoping that this issue will somehow shoehorn into the broader redistricting “disenfranchisement” narrative your party is working on?



She's being driven by the idea that a person who was "wrongfully imprisoned" being Clerk of Court would be a good thing.

She wants revolution.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:13 pm to
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"We did not create a new office. We just eliminated the office of one elected official and transferred all that elected official's duties to a different office so we didn't make a NEW office, we just changed the other office."

I can't believe people are arguing that New Orleanians voted both Chelsey Napoleon AND Calvin Duncan to perform the duties of Criminal Clerk of Court.


This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 4:14 pm
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
905 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:14 pm to
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"We did not create a new office. We just eliminated the office of one elected official and transferred all that elected official's duties to a different office so we didn't make a NEW office, we just changed the other office."


Yes. Why can't you understand that? Are words too hard?
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:15 pm to
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She's being driven by the idea that a person who was "wrongfully imprisoned" being Clerk of Court would be a good thing.



I'm driven by the idea that the State should not invalidate local elections just because it can.

I've stated this over and over and over again.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:16 pm to
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Yes. Why can't you understand that? Are words too hard?



It's contradictory. Are the words too hard for you to understand?
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:17 pm to
Point out the contraindication.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:18 pm to
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Can you link your post clarifying election laws? I missed it somehow.


I didn't start this thread, you did.

But since you need clarification, the New Orleans City Council does not have the authority to appoint an interim clerk or call an election to replace Chelsea Napoleon.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:20 pm to
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I've stated this over and over and over again.


Have you stated who killed trayvon martin and Sandra bland yet?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61460 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:21 pm to
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I didn't start this thread, you did.


Right. I started a thread about the State threatening local elected officials if they try to elect a Clerk of Court after the State wrote a law giving us a Clerk that it selected for us.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36337 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Napoleon was elected to be Civil Clerk.

BR appointed her to be Civil AND Criminal Clerk.

NOLA wants to elect someone to occupy this newly combined office.

BR says no and we will remove your officials and put people in jail if you try to elect your own public officials.




Thanks for this lensed summary. It's pretty funny.
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