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re: AG Merrick Garland to give a briefing at 1:30 CT

Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36629 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:03 pm to
2 minute warning.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3974 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:04 pm to
Would Garland be involved

To initiate a raid on the former President?

Anyone that believes everyone from Obam and Biden down didn't know about this are beyond psychatriac help.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13178 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Same for the WH. Maybe they didn't outright tell Biden just so he could maintain that denial, but zero chance Klain or someone else close to Biden didn't have knowledge of it.


Everyone in the WH knew about it.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25457 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:04 pm to
ABC News still calling it a raid. Ha.
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22388 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:04 pm to
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Not trying to start a fight here, serious question. Would Garland be involved in that decision making process at all or would the FBI Director Christopher Wray be the top person making the decision?


So Wray was told. He wouldn't tell his boss about a raid on a former President for the first time in history over something that could have been resolved through talks with Trump's lawyers and a subpoena for the supposed documents?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58442 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Probably not even Wray under normal circumstances. I would imaging some tier of management below the director could greenlight a raid. However, this is a former President, so I dont think there's an agent alive who does this without permission, or even direction, from the WH.


If we have anyone below cabinet-level who thinks they can authorize such a thing, then we have a major problem that won't be fixed without violence.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25544 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
In a normal world I agree. But look at the things that have happened lately:

Mueller doesn't know what Fusion GPS was. He's the lead prosecutor and Fusion was the basis of everything

WH denies knowing about the raid, ok fine. WH saying they didn't know the AG was doing a press conference today

I mean these are not normal practices here
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123992 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
Yeah, I'm sure a low level division chief was like "oh yeah let's raid the former president's house over some letters, we don't need approval for this"

Totally ridiculous. Everyone in the WH knew and almost certainly directed it. They just didn't leave a trace of it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43850 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
they will pretend they didnt know, stomp their feet, demand accountability, caution us to allow the investigative process to play out, and then when it all turns out to be witch hunt 5.0, no one will be held accountable.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26133 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
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Not trying to start a fight here, serious question. Would Garland be involved in that decision making process at all or would the FBI Director Christopher Wray be the top person making the decision?


Let’s cut all the bullshite: the FBI raids the home of the former President and the presumptive opponent of the current President…

YES, Biden, Wray, and Garland all knew and likely any one of them could have stopped it if they so chose.

To think or even question otherwise is just simply imbecilic.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108081 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
They probably have been scratching the word "raid" out of his statement
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33266 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
here we go...
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75054 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Not trying to start a fight here, serious question. Would Garland be involved in that decision making process at all or would the FBI Director Christopher Wray be the top person making the decision?
IMO, to do something this unprecedented, there should be written documentation that it was signed off on by both the President and the AG, with a public announcement immediately afterwards as to the SPECIFIC reason behind the raid.

Hell, I would go so far as to say that at least 2 Supreme Court Justices should be required for the warrant.

It shouldn’t even be possible to enact a raid of a former president’s home with the signature of a magistrate judge from a national defense standpoint.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29578 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

we have a major problem that won't be fixed without violence.



Regardless, I think we have a major problem that cannot be fixed easily...
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:06 pm to
Guy on Newsmax said informant could be only be a half dozen people.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32807 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Let’s cut all the bullshite: the FBI carries out a mostly peaceful search of the home of the former President and the presumptive opponent of the current President…


I went ahead and fixed that for you.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53224 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

On the government side, the warrant is still under seal, although there is an action filed by the press to unseal the warrant. I don't think Trump is bound by the seal order, though.


The affidavit is sealed. Not the order. Oh and the info in the affidavit was fraudulent and the FBI admitted to that.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:06 pm to
He is about to test the temperature of our country.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2138 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:06 pm to
If someone on Biden’s staff made the decision to shield him from this act, which has turned into a real fiasco, how is that person still employed? Only a truly incompetent and weak POTUS would allow that.

Oh wait…
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4814 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:07 pm to
Reading like a zombie
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