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re: ADP: Payrolls up Only 22k in Jan-26
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:21 am to Bass Tiger
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:21 am to Bass Tiger
It’s not good for anyone. We don’t have an economy that can sustain millions of well paying jobs getting cut.
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:22 am to AirbusDawg
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You really believe this shite?
Yeah. It makes him feel cool and edgy. Best to just ignore him and let him have his feels
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:24 am to TigerFanatic99
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Yeah. It makes him feel cool and edgy.
No its really just simple math if you know how to read the report and the data being used
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:37 am to deltaland
This is a very well written post
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:37 am to SloaneRanger
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Maybe we should start by expelling 20 million illegals from the country.
And we have a winner. Why do we look at economic indicators, and totally ignore the fact 20 million, well probably more like 25 with anchor babies, walked into the country in the past four years????
22K jobs added as 2.5 million illegals have left. Means Americans are picking up ALOT of jobs vacated by illegals, Im amazed there are any positive numbers when illegals are leaving in droves. And yes they had ss# so they were being captured in the labor data.
How else can you explain, in such a "weak" job market, that pay increases are consistently outstripping inflation????????
The loss of manufacturing jobs has been slowed from the blood letting of years past, and when these new factories are built we will see those numbers turn positive as well.
And can we stop with the boogie man of AI taking jobs. Some will be lost, many will be created.
Remember the industrial revolution, the computer age, the dotcom era. Economies adapt and always have.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:40 am to trinidadtiger
Pay increases are not outstripping inflation. AI is different from industrialization in that it is the first time humanity is building machines that will outsmart our race
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:40 am to Bass Tiger
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For those in logistics, transportation, medical, accounting, etc. it's not great news.
And that's a big fricking chunk of our economy.
AI isn't going to buy good and services. It is going to eat an exponential scale of resources, though. All to push a decimal point.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:42 am to IMSA_Fan
ADP seems to be run by leftists they're always announcing these shitty numbers somehow under Trump and I always remember being surprised by their numbers (the opposite way) under Biden.
Feels like someone there is putting a thumb on the scale
Feels like someone there is putting a thumb on the scale
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:48 am to BigGreenTiger
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Who is Warsch and is he quite politically biased
If you don't know who he is, then this conversation is not for you.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:52 am to IMSA_Fan
worse jobs economy ever.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 9:01 am to deltaland
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This is not necessarily good if it’s due to things like AI boosting productivity
That is false. For 200 years we have been eliminating jobs through productivity gains from technology and those 200 years have seen the greatest boom in quality of life in human history. If you really want more employment, and you are willing to give up technology, eliminate tractors, pesticides and chemical fertilizers. Everyone would have jobs, and no one would be stuck in those unappealing cubicles.
AI eliminating jobs will cause some local suffering as destructive technology always has (tractors, steamships, cotton gin). But quality of life will improve due to AI (at least as can be measured materially; spiritually is another matter).
Posted on 2/4/26 at 9:11 am to AUCom96
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For those in logistics, transportation, medical, accounting, etc. it's not great news.
And that's a big fricking chunk of our economy.
AI isn't going to buy good and services. It is going to eat an exponential scale of resources, though. All to push a decimal point.
We're heading towards Universal Basic Income....a Democratic Socialist dream come true.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 9:15 am to Bass Tiger
My kids learning how to do maintenance on robotics. I've given him a few of my "go to" tricks to make sure he gets called back in about a year. Belts wear out, ya know.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 9:16 am
Posted on 2/4/26 at 9:25 am to Bass Tiger
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We're heading towards Universal Basic Income....a Democratic Socialist dream come true.
I know Musk has said this...It's not coming anytime soon, if ever. The government is incapable both practically and financially of doing so. The economy will always need producers.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 9:32 am to IMSA_Fan
Employment was artificially propped up by imaginary government jobs, it isn’t difficult to understand. The private sector has been hammered for decades
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:21 am to The Pirate King
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We're heading towards Universal Basic Income....a Democratic Socialist dream come true.
I know Musk has said this...It's not coming anytime soon, if ever. The government is incapable both practically and financially of doing so. The economy will always need producers.
Some form of UBI will rolled out just as all leftist programs are rolled out.....incrementally. I think UBI will merely be an expansion/extension of the current social welfare system
You and many others may not initially qualify for UBI if your job/profession requires a warm body.
From Google AI,
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AI Overview
While a true national universal basic income (UBI) does not exist in the US, various guaranteed income, means-tested, or pilot programs are operating across 18+ states and numerous cities as of 2025. These programs, often called Guaranteed Basic Income (GBI), typically provide $500–$1,000 monthly to specific, low-income, or targeted groups rather than every citizen.
Also from Google AI,
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As of early 2026, Amazon has significantly reduced its corporate workforce, with a major round of 16,000 job cuts announced in January 2026, following 14,000 cuts in October 2025. This brings total recent layoffs to roughly 30,000 corporate employees, representing about 9% to 10% of that specific workforce, driven by a focus on reducing bureaucracy.
January 2026 Layoffs: Amazon announced a 16,000-person layoff, focusing on reducing management layers and removing bureaucracy, according to 6abc Philadelphia and CNBC.
Previous Reductions: These cuts followed a 14,000-person reduction in October 2025, notes The Seattle Times.
Total Impact: The combined layoffs (30,000 total) represent roughly 10% of Amazon's approximately 350,000 corporate and tech employees, as reported by PRWeek.
Purpose: The cuts are aimed at streamlining the organization, shifting from a pandemic-era hiring surge to an artificial intelligence-focused structure, notes O
If you add in the 27K Amazon laid off between 2022-2024 it brings their total layoffs to nearly 60k from 2022-2026.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 11:42 am
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