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re: Actor Shia LeBeouf converts to Catholicism
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:17 pm to AubieinNC2009
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:17 pm to AubieinNC2009
quote:Ever looked into how the Bible is translated?
Looks to be man made not from God if Luther was making "improvments", I guess he thought he could improve on God.
Luther wasn't "improving" upon God's word, but improving upon his own translation through further study of the manuscripts.
quote:For all the complaints from Catholics about how Protestants misrepresent their teachings, I've noticed that few Catholics actually take the time to study the history of the Reformation and the reformers like Luther. A few quotes taken selectively from pro-Catholic sources and suddenly they are experts on Luther and Calvin.
You might want to read up on Luther's life, he didnt believe most of what he put in the 95 Thesis.
Luther's theology evolved over time as he delved deeper into his studies of the scriptures. The 95 theses were written while he was still pro-Catholic. He wrote those statements to defend Catholicism against the abuses he saw, primarily with the teachings and practice of indulgences.
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Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:22 pm to FooManChoo
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As soon as you add additional requirements (works) to Christ's work on the cross as a means of merit for salvation
And this is what many protestants do by believe in the ABCs of salvation would would be more than just God's grace. I have been to many protestant churchs that said you had to say a prayer to be saved, that is doing something yourself.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:25 pm to Stitches
quote:Works don't produce merit. If we are united to Christ by faith, our works neither add to our justification nor take away from it.
Catholic teaching agrees with you on that:
Council of Trent: "If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or by the teaching of the Law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema” (Session 6; can. 1).
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:How are the scriptures "additional works"?
The scriptures themselves are "additional works."
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:31 pm to AubieinNC2009
quote:I actually agree with you on this particular point. It's quite common that professing Christians point to their alter call response for their evidence of salvation rather than a recognition of sin and need for salvation through faith alone in Jesus Christ. A lot of Protestants are closer to Rome than they are their Reformed forefathers.
And this is what many protestants do by believe in the ABCs of salvation would would be more than just God's grace. I have been to many protestant churchs that said you had to say a prayer to be saved, that is doing something yourself.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:35 pm to FooManChoo
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The trunk is Christ. We are grafted in to Him, not Rome.
Most Catholics I know are the same as you and me. Although they may go to confession to a priest, how is that any different from a dying soldier on a battlefield or the sinners crucified with Jesus that confessed their sins and were forgiven regardless of the life they lived prior?
I say this being someone who maintains a personal relationship with the Almighty but does not follow any man-made edict of what I HAVE to be or do to be saved. It is not up to you or your interpretation nor is it any other man's interpretation of the scripture.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:41 pm to pevetohead
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Actor Shia LeBeouf converts to Catholicism
Poor choice.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:01 am to FooManChoo
Foo, you sound like your own Pope. Do you have a church?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:01 am to pevetohead
Shia is a woman beating shitbag.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:09 am to AubieinNC2009
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No it has all the books that Martin Luther wanted in it. He also tried to remove Hebrews, James & Jude, he removed Macabees because it mentioned purgatory which he didnt believe in
There was no purgatory in Maccabee unless you believe that Abraham’s bosom was purgatory. You see when Jesus was crucified buried he went to Sheol and when he left hell expanded the gulf between Abraham’s bosom and Hell because all in Abraham’s bosom was emptied by their faith in the messiah. So there is no Abraham’s bosom anymore. Just as Jesus forgave the sinner on the cross he can forgive anyone at any moment. There is no need for Abraham’s bosom because our salvation is fulfilled if we accept it. We are no longer waiting for a savior he has come.
If the Maccabean revolt is important to point to the 4 books of maccabees why does the Catholic Church believe in replacement theology. And yes I know some Protestants believe in replacement theology as well.
I’m a former Catholic so I know all the bs within an Catholic Church and what they believe. I am a nondenominational dispensationalist now. Rightly dividing the word of God.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:09 am to pevetohead
Dad is a coonass so 90% chance dad was born Catholic
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:35 am to FooManChoo
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Only scripture is “God breathed”, and there cannot be any rule higher than the word of God. That is the essence of sola scriptura: God’s word is the sole rule for faith and life as binding on the Christian. The Bereans affirmed the teachings of the Apostles by the scriptures at that time and were lauded for it.
Watching you guys debate which interpretation of The Bible is correct is like two shite-eating advocates debate which animal shite tastes the best.
If the Bible and Christians primary function is to save the lost, all this public debate does is make you look self-serving of your own egos, which is in itself a sin. Congrats banging yourselves to a cross of your own making.
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 12:41 am
Posted on 8/26/22 at 1:15 am to pevetohead
I guess playing a preacher on Fury didn't fully convince him?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:29 am to shutterspeed
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That’s one way to evade the fallout of getting #metoo’ed.
If your team doesn't want you anymore, it's time to join the other team I guess.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:10 am to pevetohead
Good for him. Hope it’s not just a flash in the pan for him.
And to every non-Catholic Christian who runs to this thread just to bash Catholicism, two things:
1. You really should root for these Hollywood types when they turn toward Christ at all. We need to be on the same team, even when debating our faiths, in the years ahead as the world grows more and more hostile toward people of faith.
2. Stop regurgitating every anti-Catholic meme you were taught in Bible school and go meet some good Catholics. If you’re going to argue (amicably) with Catholics, most of you on this board really need to beef up your understanding of the Church.
And to every non-Catholic Christian who runs to this thread just to bash Catholicism, two things:
1. You really should root for these Hollywood types when they turn toward Christ at all. We need to be on the same team, even when debating our faiths, in the years ahead as the world grows more and more hostile toward people of faith.
2. Stop regurgitating every anti-Catholic meme you were taught in Bible school and go meet some good Catholics. If you’re going to argue (amicably) with Catholics, most of you on this board really need to beef up your understanding of the Church.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:28 am to CatholicLSUDude
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Stop regurgitating every anti-Catholic meme you were taught in Bible School
Some of them do this with so much enthusiasm that you’d think most of their religion was based on anti-Catholic memes taught in bible school.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:12 am to Speckhunter2012
Why is this on the Poli Board? I saw the conversation he was having. It was about religious conversion and what spurred him too it.
This is not political, it's personal. Be happy for him that he found an avenue to inner peace and strength through God and in Jesus His son. Leave Shia be...and if you believe his conversion is genuine, pray for him, because the demons of his life will not retreat so easily. He will have to wrestle them, we all do.....and they are mutha fukkas.
This is not political, it's personal. Be happy for him that he found an avenue to inner peace and strength through God and in Jesus His son. Leave Shia be...and if you believe his conversion is genuine, pray for him, because the demons of his life will not retreat so easily. He will have to wrestle them, we all do.....and they are mutha fukkas.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:14 am to FooManChoo
I love when Protestants can’t help it and show their true hypocritical side when it comes to Catholics.
Same old tired refrain. One of the foundations of Protestantism. The only way they can be “right” is if Catholicism is wrong and evil.
Same old tired refrain. One of the foundations of Protestantism. The only way they can be “right” is if Catholicism is wrong and evil.
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 6:24 am
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:32 am to FooManChoo
There is a common perception about Luther that he was being provocative when he nailed the 95 thesis to the door of the Church at Wurtemberg.
He was being provocative , but that was how discussions started back then. You wanted a debate on theology, go to the church door and post your concerns.
The debates between the Mainline Protestants and the Catholics, many times seem very petty.
He was being provocative , but that was how discussions started back then. You wanted a debate on theology, go to the church door and post your concerns.
The debates between the Mainline Protestants and the Catholics, many times seem very petty.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:34 am to FooManChoo
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He appears to have joined himself to an organization that denies the sufficiency of faith in Christ’s atoning work on the cross for salvation.
Maybe he read somewhere that faith without works is dead.
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