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re: Abolishing the IRS

Posted on 7/24/26 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/24/26 at 8:56 pm to
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I'd suggest a 5 to 8% national sales tax on new goods. Everyone would pay there fair share (as it is called) sine the evil rich would pay more in taxes because they purchase more goods.

If that isn't sufficient revenue to cover federal expenditures then non-essential government programs must necessarily be cut.
Well, current income taxes are right about 20% of GDP. So you’d have to cut all government by about 50%, and payroll taxes in place, unless you end SS entirely. Also it would be a sozeable tax increase on the 50% or so that currently pay $0 in income taxes.

I’m pretty onboard with those consequences, but I also recognize it’s political suicide.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Doak Walker
Dallas
Member since Sep 2022
659 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:00 pm to
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Earned Income Credit, Additional Child Tax Credit to name 2.


I'm a huge advocate for helping out those who are struggling, but at the same time, I do not want to incentivize people to make less money. We need to find a way to help people who are at least trying to make a living without rewarding those who are just milking the system.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14642 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:01 pm to
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Remember when trump used talk about neutering the IRS and no payroll taxes.

I miss those days.



If you get MAGA to make some noise about it he'll say those things again.

He won't do them, of course, because he can't, but if you just like hearing it, he'll say just about anything he thinks MAGA wants to hear.
Posted by Bob_Sugar
Member since Mar 2026
254 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:01 pm to
Remember when we were raking in billions with tariffs and the courts ended most of it?

That was the plan to make it the ERS. External Revenue Service.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10411 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:12 pm to
1) Why should SS be cut? That's not funded by income taxes. That's a completely separate tax in and of itself. It's taken with the promise of repayment at a set rate after a certain age (which more than likely will never equal the amount the individual paid into it).

2) It damned well OUGHT to be an increase for the freeloaders who pay no income taxes. And, for those who are extremely wealthy for whatever reason, they will be paiyng taxes as well on new goods purchased.

3) Cutting government by 50% is NOT a bad idea at all - except for the fact that it probably needs to be cut by even more than that.

We have always been taught in our schools that there is "no taxation without representation." So then, why is it that people who pay no taxes get to have a say in how the rest of us are taxed? Create a national sales tax/consumption tax and everyone now has skin in the game.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:15 pm
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
7710 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:17 pm to
Lol no chance in hell Republicans would allow that anyway.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
843 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:29 pm to
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Remember when trump used talk about neutering the IRS


I believe that the BBB did take a yuge whack at the IRS budget. Gotta give orange and the republicans in congress credit where credit is due.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20500 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:39 pm to
I would redirect the IRS towards politically motivated non profits and fraud.

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44694 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:46 pm to
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Iran was an unforced error. But now that that die is cast, we must follow through.


The dumbest shite I’ve seen posted in a month. You MAGA folks are truly fricked. As bad as the Obama folks.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66614 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:08 pm to
He had a huge mandate, landslide, popular vote, etc. and he spent it all on Israel.
Posted by Boomer65
Norman
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
3319 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:59 pm to
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Abolish property tax instead first. Then we can work on federal income tax.


There’s a greater chance every poster here wins the lottery than any of that ever happening.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63845 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 12:05 am to
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1) Why should SS be cut? That's not funded by income taxes. That's a completely separate tax in and of itself.
Maybe try reading?
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So you’d have to cut all government by about 50%, and payroll taxes in place,unless you end SS entirely.


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It's taken with the promise of repayment at a set rate after a certain age (which more than likely will never equal the amount the individual paid into it).
There is no guaranteed ROI. Congress can cut it to zero anytime it wants.

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2) It damned well OUGHT to be an increase for the freeloaders who pay no income taxes.3) Cutting government by 50% is NOT a bad idea at all
I'm not sure why you're arging?
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I’m pretty onboard with those consequences,
Hell, I'm for flat taxes (not flat percentage). But... like raising taxes on over 50% of the population it's a political non-starter. We love our government spending. See your point #1.
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