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re: ABC: Ukraine Agrees to Terms of US Peace Deal

Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:30 pm to
According to Larov Ukraine attacked Russia. Even his Indian allies laughed at that.

This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:34 pm to
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bullshite


For anyone unfamiliar with the sordid history of Victoria Nuland, I periodically have reposted the following subject from time to time when this discussion arises.

Today is as good a day as any to do so again!



Nuland’s War: no informed discussion of the situation in the Ukraine is possible without discussing the largely anonymous Deep State players who have shaped the West’s relationship with other nations in Eastern Europe over the past few decades.

Victoria Nuland is the personification of a cold blooded swamp critter: a largely anonymous, unelected and unaccountable Deep State apparatchik who welds enormous power in determining the Foreign Policy Agenda of the United States.

This article from March 2015, written in the aftermath of the CIA sponsored Euromaidan Uprising, discuses the war profiteers behind the putsch.

Whatever your opinion of Russia or Putin, anyone who denies the outsized influence of the Kagan-Nuland clan in determining the foreign policy agenda of the United States in the region is 1.) either ignorant or 2.) a Deep State propagandist.



A Family Business of Perpetual War: Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan have a great mom-and-pop business going. From the State Department, she generates wars and from op-ed pages he demands Congress buy more weapons. There’s a pay-off, too, as grateful military contractors kick in money to think tanks where other Kagans work

Neoconservative pundit Robert Kagan and his wife, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, run a remarkable family business: she has sparked a hot war in Ukraine and helped launch Cold War II with Russia and he steps in to demand that Congress jack up military spending so America can meet these new security threats.

This extraordinary husband-and-wife duo makes quite a one-two punch for the Military-Industrial Complex, an inside-outside team that creates the need for more military spending, applies political pressure to ensure higher appropriations, and watches as thankful weapons manufacturers lavish grants on like-minded hawkish Washington think tanks….
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Lindsey Graham, Liz Cheney, Rand Paul, Pelosi, Adam Kinzinger, Biden, Obama, Bush, Turtle... are pissed.


Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128278 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:43 pm to
Reddit is so mad at this news
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15712 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Reddit is so mad at this news


The Zelensky bros hereabouts will be pissed too
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
2315 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Didn't they already agree in principal?


That's what my school principle said, but he gets a lot of stuff mixed up.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Orange “The Peacemaker”



Nicely spoken!
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4525 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 1:42 pm to
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The only question that remains: will Russia likewise agree to it? Color me skeptical.


Skeptical?

According to every Democrat and their mouthpieces in the MSM, it was the Russkies that actually wrote the peace agreement not Rubio and the U.S.

Why wouldn’t they sign it, if that was truly the case?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42639 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 1:43 pm to
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According to every Democrat and their mouthpieces in the MSM, it was the Russkies that actually wrote the peace agreement not Rubio and the U.S.


Because modifications have been made.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6334 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 1:46 pm to
I can hear the keyboards clicking, from DC to my house, of all the elected officials selling their war stock portfolios
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 1:48 pm to
It feels like this release is pressure on Russia to accept terms it really doesn’t want to accept.

Have to give Trumps administration credit here. This was set up pretty good to make Russia look like compete assholes if they don’t accept this.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85668 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Russia look like compete assholes if they don’t accept this.


that doesn’t seem to move the needle much for them
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42639 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:03 pm to
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that doesn’t seem to move the needle much for them


Correct, they already invaded their neighbor and blamed NATO, Nazis, Ukraine, and others for the attacks and many here bought it.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11821 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:04 pm to
Eat Peace MFers!
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:19 pm to
I'll need to go see how they are taking this on DU and Reddit. I need some TDS hysterics. The Doom and gloom crowd here aren't enough anymore.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134916 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:32 pm to
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Didn't they already agree in principal?
quote:

That's what my school principle said,
ISWYDT
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134916 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138949 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:00 pm to
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Didn't they already agree in principal?
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That's what my school principle said, but he gets a lot of stuff mixed up.


Perhaps the amount of money we'd be willing to lend to the parties?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Correct, they already invaded their neighbor and blamed NATO, Nazis, Ukraine, and others for the attacks and many here bought it.


Yet this war will end just like many of us predicted when it started. Ukraine will have to settle for what they can get.
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