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Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:10 pm to stout
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Still, firing as they ran off may have F'd him
If I'm on the jury and he says the shots were to scare them off I'm voting not guilty.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:17 pm to stout
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and reportedly was not taken for medical care for approximately 30 minutes
How come there arent more being charged? Watching your buddy bleed out for 30 min, certainly is a damn huge mitigating factor
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:27 pm to stout
“Burglar, officer? …. what burglar? …. I don’t see any burglar….
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:30 pm to stout
Think of all the people he'll never rob
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:34 pm to SallysHuman
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It was a detached garage.
It's still his home.
He could have a had a failure to launch kid sleeping in the detached garage, etc. I don't get why this is so hard for weenies to understand after we've had decades of rulings that cars, hotel rooms, etc., are treated as extensions of the home.
7 thieves? He was a dumbass for running out there with a handgun.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:38 pm to stout
Reminds me of the Justified episode where Raylin shoots the felon running away from him.
Bad guy
“ You shot me in the back!”
Raylin
“If you wanted to get shot in the front you should’ve run towards me’
Bad guy
“ You shot me in the back!”
Raylin
“If you wanted to get shot in the front you should’ve run towards me’
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:39 pm to LemmyLives
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He could have a had a failure to launch kid sleeping in the detached garage, etc. I don't get why this is so hard for weenies to understand after we've had decades of rulings that cars, hotel rooms, etc., are treated as extensions of the home.
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7 thieves? He was a dumbass for running out there with a handgun.
It could have gone sideways on him... but it didn't- whatever the mix of preparedness and luck.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:40 pm to RobbBobb
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Watching your buddy bleed out for 30 min, certainly is a damn huge mitigating factor
I didn't catch that... yeah, that's a big deal.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:41 pm to stout
A yes the “he was a good kid.. we wouldn’t neva do that !”
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:45 pm to stout
My client says he shot them into the air as continued warning shots. Any shots previous to that are justified as he was fearful and they were on his property with obvious ill intentions.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:50 pm to stout
Don't break into other people's private property and the odds you will be shot and killed drop to near 0.
Make an example of a few of these shitbag wastes of oxygen and they will get the message.
Make an example of a few of these shitbag wastes of oxygen and they will get the message.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:59 pm to stout
Family pushing for murder charges. They should have put that much effort into raising him to not be a societal menace
One less bad guy roaming the streets. The property owner should get an award if anything
One less bad guy roaming the streets. The property owner should get an award if anything
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:10 pm to stout
Don't shoot a burglar unless he is alone and you can disappear the body.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:25 pm to Azkiger
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If I'm on the jury and he says the shots were to scare them off I'm voting not guilty.
He could have chased them all down the street and shot them. Drug their bodies back in his yard and stuck their heads on stakes.
I’d say not guilty.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:26 pm to stout
Let the bodies hit the garage floor.
Better to be judged by 10, than carried by 6.
Better to be judged by 10, than carried by 6.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:38 pm to RobbBobb
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Watching your buddy bleed out for 30 min, certainly is a damn huge mitigating facto
That's on the municipality. If you call 911 for a GSW, and it takes 30 minutes for someone to get to you, that's their problem.
As much as I like to say I'd pull one of the three tourniquets and the range of hemostatic bandages I have within 20 feet of me right now to apply to a home invader, I can't say it'd burn through the fog of being invaded. A car wreck or a dog bite, or an innocent being stabbed or shot by someone else are wildly different than you shooting someone when under threat. People discount how disconnected you are, and most people *can't* respond.
I'd come around sooner than 30m, but many people can't. It's not their fault. But it's OK for the Menendez brothers to blow heir parents heads off, and that's cool.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:00 pm to Chrome
You had a good instructor in your CCP class. It's good to have that legal training to go along with firearms proficiency training. And you are very correct in this statement:
My response to answer those questions is-
1) Know the laws of your state. Some states allow an armed response to any invasion of any part of the home, but most do not permit an armed response unless there is a forceful entry into the domicile or a circumstance which leads the homeowner to believe his life, or the life of a family member may be in danger. I believe Michigan is a state that requires the latter circumstances, unfortunately.
2) Is this somehting a rational persodn would do? Probably not, because who can be rational the moments that someone is rampaging through your property and stealing you blind? I think he could plead temporary insanity and have it legitimately considered as a legal defence.
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Basically you have to satisfy two things in order to know you are on good ground. One, is it legal to engage and two, is this something a rational person would do.
My response to answer those questions is-
1) Know the laws of your state. Some states allow an armed response to any invasion of any part of the home, but most do not permit an armed response unless there is a forceful entry into the domicile or a circumstance which leads the homeowner to believe his life, or the life of a family member may be in danger. I believe Michigan is a state that requires the latter circumstances, unfortunately.
2) Is this somehting a rational persodn would do? Probably not, because who can be rational the moments that someone is rampaging through your property and stealing you blind? I think he could plead temporary insanity and have it legitimately considered as a legal defence.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:22 am to jchamil
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Why are they not charged with felony murder?
As opposed to misdemeanor murder?
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:33 am to Houag80
Grady Judd laughs at Texas.
“Shoot home invaders like Swiss cheese”
“Only person who gets to enter your house in Santa Claus.”
These are different incidents here in Florida. We do it differently.
Texas, enjoy your new Indian holidays saar. 
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