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A question about Middle-Eastern countries

Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by theballguy
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:06 am
Why are these middle-eastern countries so inept at everything? They don't seem to be able to do anything right and can't get their shite together at all.

They lose every conflict they get involved in. They look really stupid and their religion really sucks arse.

Nothing good ever seems to happen for them when they say Alahu Akbar.

They are the top of the line when I think of losers in this world.

How can anyone suck this bad and still live?
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8730 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:10 am to
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They lose every conflict they get involved in.


The Taliban says hi. The Mujahideen also beat back the Soviets (with significant American help).
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 11:12 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:10 am to
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They don't seem to be able to do anything right and can't get their shite together at all.

They lose every conflict they get involved in.


That wasn't always the case. They have conquered vast lands.

Istanbul was once Constantinople.

They've been in a down cycle for the past century but that doesn't mean they can't pull out of it.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11353 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:13 am to
Inbreeding in Muslim countries has made the average iq to be 71. That is a fact people are scared to talk about. So most of their people would be special needs in the states.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:17 am to
There are a handful of countries that have a good quality of life there. I would say UAE isn’t that bad. Probably Kuwait and maybe Saudi Arabia. I can’t name them all, but some areas life is pretty good. Somebody mentioned Oman on the travel board as a decent country.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6407 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:20 am to
The whole region is a shithole. Lots of low iq people due to inbreeding etc.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15675 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:22 am to
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Why are these middle-eastern countries so inept at everything? They don't seem to be able to do anything right and can't get their shite together at all.


You’re looking at them from the viewpoint of a westerner. Their perspective is likely very different. The region has been in conflict for millennia.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15488 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:25 am to
One problem is that Middle Eastern countries can't get on the same page. There are a lot of regional disputes like Saudi Arabia vs Iran, Saudi Arabia vs Yemen, Iraq vs Iran, etc.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:27 am to
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The region has been in conflict for millennia.



Somewhere, this was predicted.

quote:

This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:35 am to
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They lose every conflict they get involved in.

Isreal is in this mess because the Christians were beaten by Saladin in 1187 to end the 2nd Crusade.
Posted by theballguy
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Oct 2011
1857 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:35 am to
Well, the Russian people are inept as well. Not surprised that a bunch of goatfrickers would beat them back.

The Taliban never beat the US. We just couldn't sustain nation building and really that is a horrible idea.

I would have had no issue with bombing a country like Afghanistan back to the stone age when/if their government tries to mess with us or support those who do.

But trying to pretend we're building a western style government with these animals is very stupid.
Posted by theballguy
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Oct 2011
1857 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:38 am to
Anyways, another note, these middle-eastern countries seem to have much better success as guerilla fighters than as organized armies -- though everyone knows that is not even sustainable. Their leadership is extremely corrupt. The people who serve as officers and generals in their militaries buy those positions or are given out politically.

They are horrible goatf-fricking people with no sense of civility at all. I am not a people bigot but I am definitely a cultural bigot. Some cultures are just vastly superior to others and I will always believe that.
Posted by JimNat
Member since Jan 2020
689 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:39 am to
You’re looking at it from a western view.

Israel has kicked there asses in every war since 1948, what am I missing?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67036 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:41 am to
Lots of tribalism with various ethnic and religious groups having populations intermingled together.

Competition for scarce water resources.

Technology rendering the few natural borders relatively indefensible.

Arbitrary borders drawn up in the 20th century that illogically bundle disparate groups together and separate populations from the resources they rely on (Iraq is especially unstable because of this).

Islamic prohibitions against usury prevented the creation of financial sectors that could create money multipliers and build national economies of scale.

Communist influence during the Cold War that prevented economies from growing.

“Resource curse” as all profits from oil extraction go to a small corrupt elite as the peasants get nothing. Elites don’t have to GAF about the peasants since they don’t contribute to oil extraction nor are they a significant market. They only exist as mouths to feed or soldiers.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
483 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Why are these middle-eastern countries so inept at everything? They don't seem to be able to do anything right and can't get their shite together at all.

They lose every conflict they get involved in. They look really stupid and their religion really sucks arse.

Nothing good ever seems to happen for them when they say Alahu Akbar.

And yet we are allowing them to come here and destroy us from within. Shots or no shots made, we've been complacent.

If Trump gets back in one of the first things he needs to put an end to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8325 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 1:12 pm to
Zeihan gave the most succinct answer to this I’ve ever seen… it’s still 16 minutes, but that’s about the best speed-run you can do through a thousand or so year period of lagging development

Zeihan on YouTube
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6530 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 1:19 pm to
Take a look at satellite photo of Iran and Tehran. Mostly rocks and sand. The capital city is laid out in an insane fashion.

Their religion is regressive at best and keeps the people stuck back in 900 A.D. .
I have a friend who is a physicist that is from Iran. He has a beautiful wife and family here in Baton Rouge. He agrees with the above and will not travel back to Iran.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112426 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 1:25 pm to
They were really good at math about 1,000 years ago. That's why the world uses Arabic Numbers.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18306 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 2:04 pm to
The smaller ones have it together.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58559 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Somewhere, this was predicted.


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