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re: A More Perfect Union - Breaking up US into smaller nation states
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:04 pm to ItNeverRains
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:04 pm to ItNeverRains
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What’s not guaranteed is a 2nd Civil War,
I see nothing about this proposal that lessens the chance of Civil War.
If something like this were ever going to work, we’d have to toss out state boundaries to accomplish any semblance of lasting peace/stability. Most state boundaries are either natural borders (rivers) that no longer pose the navigational barriers to commerce they once did, or they are totally arbitrary based on lat/long.
Our division as a nation is urban/rural. It’s what makes the population so inextricable. There isn’t a way to craft viable nation states using current state boundaries that wouldn’t result in the exact same political division problems the current US faces.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 4:09 pm
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:09 pm to Gastrogastro99
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Don’t think Texas would be ok being handed three liabilities
An uneducated Texan would say that... one that has common sense knows what a treasure trove of natural resources they would get in LA and OK, not to mention the MS River outlet.
Install adults to run it, all good.
But you sound like a moron....
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:17 pm to Wednesday
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Simply milquetoast corporatist.
The issue is Atlanta, outside of that it’s no different than Alabama, Mississippi, etc.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:23 pm to ItNeverRains
Hawaii goes with the west coast region and Alaska with the Mountain region.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:27 pm to tide06
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The issue is Atlanta
Atlanta is a tumor.
ETA - but I live in Lousiana - we’re stuck with New Orleans. Which is a Stage IV Trainwreck
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:29 pm to TrueTiger
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The Mississippi river drains 1/3 of the continental U.S.A.
Without the EPA are you prepared?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:30 pm to TNoon
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This is a disaster and what the global want
explain your ideas.
i disagree.
global means one. uno.
all for one and one for all.
how does creating several sovereign states out of one big sovereign state further globalism?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:32 pm to ItNeverRains
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:38 pm to ItNeverRains
The map breakout is dumb......if the US was to fracture along political lines there would be around 40 states in the America First column and 10 states in the Dim/Groomer column.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:42 pm to SportTiger1
quote:Alaska’s Independence Party isn’t hugely popular at present (though it does exist) … but the Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement would like a word with you.
Hawaii goes with the west coast region and Alaska with the Mountain region.
(I’d be shocked if either of those two states ever chose to align themselves with the regions you cite)
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:42 pm to TNoon
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This is a disaster and what the global want
Not sure where all of those 30 trillion dollars are stuffed away, but I would doubt the international elite and other sovereigns would what there T-notes to be mullet wrapping.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:43 pm to CelticDog
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how does creating several sovereign states out of one big sovereign state further globalism?
An independent and strong United States (along with China ironically enough) is one of the last remaining barriers to unchecked shitty globalism, led by the UN and its really, really shitty institutions.
Globalism is just a polite term for bad socialist policy on a global scale.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:45 pm to EKG
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Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement
The Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement is the biggest joke known to man.
It is by far the least equipped state to run itself. By a lot.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:47 pm to Indefatigable
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The Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement is the biggest joke known to man. It is by far the least equipped state to run itself. By a lot.
Not true. I saw them take over the royal palace for a day and order pizza.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:52 pm to SportTiger1
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Hawaii goes with the west coast region and Alaska with the Mountain region.
southern Alaska votes for Seattle.
the pacific states care about the issues of alaska.
forget Montana.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:53 pm to Indefatigable
I’m not sure about being the “biggest joke known to man” (I could name a few other wild movements across the globe 
); but theres a faction of those cats who legit believe they’ve been colonized.
My personal opinion: The islands would opt for independence long before choosing to align themselves with the Gavin Newsoms and Nancy Pelosis of CA.
); but theres a faction of those cats who legit believe they’ve been colonized. My personal opinion: The islands would opt for independence long before choosing to align themselves with the Gavin Newsoms and Nancy Pelosis of CA.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:53 pm to ItNeverRains
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I have about as much in common with people on the West Coast and Northeast as an Italian does with a German or Spaniard. It’s time to start the process.
The ignorance is astounding.
There are more red blooded freedom loving Americans in Washington State than in Louisiana.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:08 pm to ItNeverRains
I'm pretty sure that the yellow, pink, and orange blocks, plus Iowa, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, and West Virginia as one big block would be more realistic.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:12 pm to Gastrogastro99
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Don’t think Texas would be ok being handed three liabilities
That’s what I was thinking. When TEXIT happens we’re good alone. Maybe go back to the old boundaries and grab our part of what is now Colorado back.
Ski Texas has a nice ring to it.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:21 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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