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re: A major impediment to upward mobility for blacks is racist landlords.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 7:51 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 11/7/14 at 7:51 am to SpidermanTUba
As a landlord myself I'm shocked other landlords are so blatantly stupid. HUD can fine them substantially for this conduct.
On the last house I had vacant, I showed the house to several prospective tenants.
All the white ones said "we'll discuss it and contact you later", which they never did.
The one black family asked how much they needed to put down so I didn't show the house to someone else. They're now my tenants and are keeping the house in great shape.
On the last house I had vacant, I showed the house to several prospective tenants.
All the white ones said "we'll discuss it and contact you later", which they never did.
The one black family asked how much they needed to put down so I didn't show the house to someone else. They're now my tenants and are keeping the house in great shape.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 7:54 am to SpidermanTUba
We have rented out houses to people who work here that make similar wages and have similar situations. Typically we have more trouble collecting rent on time from black tenants than the white ones. It was so bad at times we had to change vehicles when we went to collect because if we used the cars that they knew were ours they'd pretend they weren't home.
It's possible those landlords have had similar experiences in the past and that's why they are more thorough on black tenants. Not really racist, but it is profiling based on perceived stereotypes
It's possible those landlords have had similar experiences in the past and that's why they are more thorough on black tenants. Not really racist, but it is profiling based on perceived stereotypes
Posted on 11/7/14 at 7:56 am to SpidermanTUba
So Graham Wellington still gets the apartment?
Posted on 11/7/14 at 8:57 am to SpidermanTUba
1. The laws prevent discrimination. You cannot just not rent to black people.
2. I am not shocked by this at all. If you don't think racism exists, you are fooling yourself.
3. That said, I think this "study" is misguided and most likely overstates the results. Essentially they set out to prove racism and SURPRISE they found it. A lot of those elements (being "treated unfairly" are pretty subjective. Confirmation bias is real thing with trained academics, even more so with advocates pushing a position. They needed to develop clear objective outcomes (% of approved leases, etc) if they wanted to have any kind of credibility.
2. I am not shocked by this at all. If you don't think racism exists, you are fooling yourself.
3. That said, I think this "study" is misguided and most likely overstates the results. Essentially they set out to prove racism and SURPRISE they found it. A lot of those elements (being "treated unfairly" are pretty subjective. Confirmation bias is real thing with trained academics, even more so with advocates pushing a position. They needed to develop clear objective outcomes (% of approved leases, etc) if they wanted to have any kind of credibility.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 8:58 am to SpidermanTUba
I wish we could talk about this matter candidly without fear of stigma, it would be much more productive for the country.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:07 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:How do "racist landlords" prevent one from going to school, getting a job, not having babies at 16, and not doing drugs?
A major impediment to upward mobility for blacks is racist landlords.
That must be some landlord!
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:12 am to Taxing Authority
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That must be some landlord!
Yes. Yes he is.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:12 am to HempHead
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I sure as hell wouldn't eat at a restaurant that didn't serve people of color. I don't want my money going to some hick a-hole.
How do you apply that "objection" to rental properties?
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:13 am to deltaland
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It was so bad at times we had to change vehicles when we went to collect because if we used the cars that they knew were ours they'd pretend they weren't home.
Collect rent
How about you make your tenants set up an auto pay out of a pank bank account like adults. If they refuse then don't rent to them. Still blows my mind people take cash or checks each month from rent from adults.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 9:15 am
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:14 am to SpidermanTUba
New Orleans is racist.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:14 am to HempHead
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I sure as hell wouldn't eat at a restaurant that didn't serve people of color. I don't want my money going to some hick a-hole.
And that is surely your right. However, at the same time you must acknowledge his right to run his restaurant as he sees fit.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:15 am to SpidermanTUba
I don't think you know what upward mobility is.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:15 am to ljhog
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However, at the same time you must acknowledge his right to run his restaurant as he sees fit.
Yep. And its my right to acknowledge he is a racist douche if thats the way he wants to run his restaurant.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:21 am to goatmilker
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goatmilker
I despise that damn picture. Smugness at its worst. Looks like he's waiting on a light from God (say it Jake Elwood style) to anoint his face.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:21 am to SpidermanTUba
What happens when you're continually fricked over by an ethnic group?
You form biases that are all too often confirmed.
You form biases that are all too often confirmed.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:23 am to SpidermanTUba
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Racism - it apparently does exist
News?
Racism, white privilege. These things exist, but why do they exist?
Your side is not willing to talk about why some landlords don't particularly want black tenants.
Why won't you talk about it?
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:25 am to cwill
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Posted by cwill
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I sure as hell wouldn't eat at a restaurant that didn't serve people of color. I don't want my money going to some hick a-hole.
How do you apply that "objection" to rental properties?
It applies perfectly as is
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:29 am to Turbeauxdog
You're going to have to elaborate.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:31 am to SpidermanTUba
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"In one case, a white tester was told the application process was 'laid back' and required only that the tester be employed; this same housing provider told the African-American tester that he needed to have six months' employment, a landlord reference, and undergo a credit check," according to the report.
I do this and don't feel bad about it at all.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:33 am to TheGasMan
At least you own your racism. I can respect that:
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