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re: A major impediment to upward mobility for blacks is racist landlords.

Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:35 am to
Posted by member12
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:35 am to
In light if these findings, we should build a housing project in uptown.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:36 am to
Probably prejudice more than racism.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:39 am to
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At least you own your racism. I can respect that:


Raw racism is often ugly in the light of day - but, I will submit that many black landlords probably have similar policies. I'm not defending it - just suggesting that it is so.

That is the problem with lazy, collective judgment - rather than taking the individual as you find him - i.e. black guy comes to rent from me in a work shirt with his name on it, from XYZ Heating and Cooling, decent references, has his deposit - I'm going to treat him appropriately, as will I the white boy with an urban "sense of style", flat bill significantly askance, visible tattoos on his arms, neck, a certain casual manner about him, no references and he wants me to spot him last month's rent and cut his deposit.

I ignore the race in favor of characteristics WITHIN that person's control - isn't that what we all want?
Posted by TheGasMan
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:40 am to
It goes along with the collecting rent situation the other poster stated before. I don't not rent to black people, I've just had trouble in the past with payment and am trying to prevent it from happening again.

Currently I have 2 different places rented out to black couples. Their background check came out fine
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:41 am to
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Posted by cwill
You're going to have to elaborate.




I'm not going to rent from landlords who engage in this practice. I will also inform my friends and family of this practice and they will do the same. Maybe I'll tweet about it and this landlords bigotry will become publicized and many more people will avoid his properties. Less demand for his dwellings decreases the rates he can charge.

He pays for his bigotry just as the restaurant owner does.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:43 am to
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I ignore the race in favor of characteristics WITHIN that person's control - isn't that what we all want?


You would think so but some people do their thinking through their emotions instead of their intellect.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:44 am to
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Yep. And its my right to acknowledge he is a racist douche if thats the way he wants to run his restaurant.

Perhaps. Or, perhaps he's not racist at all but, he knows that in his particular location, more blacks in his establishment = fewer whites and that the trade off isn't even. Not unlike how some clubs recognize that the lower the percentage of hot chicks, the fewer high paying men show up. That club owner might not be sexist, but he likes profits, so, he has his door man hold up ugly chicks.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:44 am to
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A major impediment to upward mobility for blacks is


boiling crab syndrome.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:45 am to
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Currently I have 2 different places rented out to black couples. Their background check came out fine

Well what you responded to saying you would do the exact same thing, was racial discrimination despite similar background checks. If you do that proudly, you are racist in my book.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:46 am to
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At least you own your racism. I can respect that:

Why is his point racist? Is it not a fact that blacks in this nation have a higher likelihood to have bad credit than whites?

Full disclosure. 2 of my three most recent tenants were black and, in a note of irony, my lone white tenant broke his lease because he went to jail.

But, anecdote doesn't trump the general reality.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:46 am to
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I'm not going to rent from landlords who engage in this practice.


What if you own a home? Why would you be in the rental market? Or how would you know a landlord was racist and didn't rent to blacks?
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:49 am to
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Why is his point racist? Is it not a fact that blacks in this nation have a higher likelihood to have bad credit than whites?


I think a very important fact in the article/study was that they used equally positioned people - color was the only difference.

I have rent properties, a credit check is standard practice before renting to anyone. So if you have equally economically positioned folks with equal credit rating and the only difference is color...and you treat the two applicants different - laid back with one and rigid with the other....racist?
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:49 am to
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onmymedicalgrind



Oh. And I think it's only fair to say that with the frequency you find yourself responding in these threads, you are clearly "black obsessed".
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:50 am to
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Why is his point racist? Is it not a fact that blacks in this nation have a higher likelihood to have bad credit than whites?

According to OP, credit rating and other important factors when renting were controlled for. Despite that (again, according to this study which I have not read so if its BS its BA) blacks were still "treated unfairly." The poster I responded to said he would do the same thing. To me that is textbook racism. You disagree?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:52 am to
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I think the point of the article was that they used equally positioned people - color was the only difference.

Even when controlling for equally positioned people, blacks in this nation have lower credit scores. I don't know why that is, but it is. It ain't my fault.

But hey, I happen to have the same rental process for my two rental homes regardless of what you look like cause, well, like I said, my most recent white renter went to f'n jail!!!(He had a 700+ credit score for f's sake!!)

But, for a person renting a home they own, I could give two shits if they want to only rent to hot blondes. It's called FREEDOM.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:53 am to
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According to OP, credit rating and other important factors when renting were controlled for.
By the way. While I'm not discounting the article, anyone else notice that they only told us the percentage of blacks who were rejected but not the percentage of whites rejected? That sure is poor writing.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:53 am to
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you are clearly blacksessed.


FTFY - we're going with blacksessed over "black obsessed" because it has more pop and makes for a better flow.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:54 am to
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Even when controlling for equally positioned people, blacks in this nation have lower credit scores. I don't know why that is, but it is. It ain't my fault.



They have equal credit scores.

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But, for a person renting a home they own, I could give two shits if they want to only rent to hot blondes. It's called FREEDOM.


OK...but I thought we were just talking about whether or not the treatment was racist (or prejudicial is probably more accurate).
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:55 am to
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Even when controlling for equally positioned people, blacks in this nation have lower credit scores. I don't know why that is, but it is. It ain't my fault.

Wait, huh? The average credit rating of blacks is totally irrelevant when deciding on who to rent to. The specific score of the particular black is all that matters. You clearly aren't well versed in ecological fallacies.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:56 am to
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FTFY - we're going with blacksessed over "black obsessed" because it has more pop and makes for a better flow.

You melanin deprived folks are so lazy. Cant add one extra syllable?
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