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re: A female perspective on feminism

Posted on 3/8/18 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 10:39 pm to
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I have nothing in common with women that call themselves feminists. I prefer to make my own decisions, about my life, my job, my family. Too many Feminists (leftists in lipstick) want to do as all leftists do - CONTROL EVERYTHING.


I'll add this. I want women to have the same rights and opportunities as any man. But my issue is that 3rd and 4th wave want a very lopsided, economically impossible version of feminism. Equal outcomes at the expense of both sexes.

Why cant both sexes just admit that we are equal under the law but have differences that make us better at certain occupations versus the opposite gender.

In truth, freedom of choice means there will ALWAYS be a higher percentage of women in some occupations than others both on the high-end and low-end of the pay scale.

Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 10:47 pm to
According to my wife, she said she despises feminism because she doesn’t like being patronized and constantly being told that she’s a victim.
Needless to say, made me proud!
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28939 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 10:48 pm to
My wife is very girl power and a bit of a conservative SJW, but she thinks feminism is bullshite.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 10:50 pm to
My GF is more left than I, but is 100 percent on the hates feminist train
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 10:58 pm to
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I certainly believe men are becoming more soft as well but in some ways that's partially related to new wave feminist philosophy.


Agreed. To be blunt, we live in a gynocentric society. Men may hold more positions of direct power, but society at large operates on whats best in the interest of females.

K-12 education is centered primarily on the way girls learn (to be fair, I think this is influenced by the fact that it is a female-dominated field and that its easier for the schools to operate this way)

Look at politics.

Democrats = 4th wave feminism supporters.
Republicans = gynocentric traditional conservatives

I adore Ben Shapiro, but one of the few talking points I disagree with is his view on why marriage rates are failing. Yes, there are men who need to take more responsibility. But he underscores that most millennial women have entitled princess syndrome. Add single mothers to the mix, and the dating market isn't great for either side.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:07 pm to
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Women now make up just under 1/2 of the labor force (47ish%) but only hold 29% of key manegement positions. Worse, women hold only 16% of CEO positions. There is room for improvement there as women continue to complete degrees. While lifestyle choices made by women will likely always keep women well below the 50% mark (time off, hours worked, etc), I believe 25% is a reasonable expectation for women in CEO positions.

Eh, I think women gravitate toward certain job positions. Having quotas or expectations of certain positions is a bit silly. We don't have the same outrage when women over-represent positions in fields like nursing and teaching.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 12:48 am to
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According to my wife, feminism is a waste of time. Doesn't agree with it, thinks it isn't relevant today.

Do other women agree?


As a progressive i will say that i think there are still some things that need to be addressed but you cant angrily approach it and that many of these "feminists" are trying to battle by using masculinity or condemning it. This is not the right way to go about it.

Women shouldn't try to be men to succeed. We as a society should find the balance of our stronger traits and use them together as a team
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9162 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 5:06 am to
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We as a society should find the balance of our stronger traits and use them together as a team


I agree that theoretically this would work but it actually happening is a challenge.

It's funny because our relationship has evolved into just what you have described. Over the years I have come to understand that there are certain things that she makes better decisions on so I trust her judgement over my own. She doesn't do so well with financial decisions and stressful situations so she relies on me when we experience these issues.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23735 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 5:18 am to
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According to my wife,


The fact that your wife is allowed to have opinions and make independent decisions affecting the family finances is a direct result of the feminist demand for equal rights.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58856 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 5:22 am to
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The fact that your wife is allowed to have opinions and make independent decisions affecting the family finances is a direct result of the feminist demand for equal rights.


Oh Jesus Christ.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22320 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 5:25 am to
I totally agree. It's a man's world. Not saying men are better than women, but that's the natural order of things. Get over it. People trying to short-circuit the natural order need to give it a rest. It's nothing but a huge distraction and a complete waste of time. Might as well try to make water run uphill.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10165 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 5:41 am to
My wife owns a business and makes a lot more than me (I’m ok with that because I do pretty well and carry everyone on my insurance).

She thinks 99% of the crap that the MSM pushes is appalling, including feminism and all the sexual assault stories in Hollywood and against trump. And she’s not a trump lover, she’s just not an idiot who falls for the lefts next big push for votes.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29174 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:20 am to
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I will say I'm pretty disgusted with men in general and how women are devalued, viewed as simply sex objects. Women who do duck lips in bikinis on instagram are valued more than strong women who actually accomplish things.

Society send horrible signals to young girls on how to achieve in this world.



See, you are a feminist.

And I 100% agree.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:25 am to
My wife would say this to a femnazi "I don't want you messin' with the deal I got" (in my best Jerry Clower voice)
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90054 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:31 am to
It’s mostly young stupid female millennials being driven by butch far leftwing nuts.
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 6:32 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51687 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:52 am to
My wife agrees with your wife. Her stance has always been that you have to deal with men like other men do, not demand that men deal with women like other women would.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5333 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:54 am to
My wife would agree minus the pro-life/peo-choice ongoing debate.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12095 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:54 am to
Feminist are usually ugly women who get no attention from men, which they desperately want but cannot have, and thus attack men as a security mechanism....as though people will think that it is their choice not to have a man, and not because they can't get one. Just look at a feminist March some time. And no offense to any true feminist who fight because they believe women are somehow treated unfairly. But I'm pretty sure this is the perception most people (including non-feminist women) have.....
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 7:07 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:59 am to
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The fact that your wife is allowed to have opinions and make independent decisions affecting the family finances is a direct result of the feminist demand for equal rights.
My wife isn’t allowed to do any of these things.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260878 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 7:12 am to
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See, you are a feminist.


Modern? No. I want nothing to do with 4th wave.
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