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re: A Democrat candidate for President advocated gun confiscation by the Federal government

Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:45 pm to
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Why don't you read something instead of posting horseshite from the seat of your pants



Aye, Ronnie

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What do you think the language "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" means then


It means exactly what it says?

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Why did they put it in the amendment then if it didn't mean the purpose for which the right to bear arms was granted?


An explanation for why they ranked it 2nd only to the freedom of speech?

It's sad that you need these clear facts explained to you. Who helps you to get your shoes on the right feet?
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:47 pm to
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Why did they put it in the amendment then if it didn't mean the purpose for which the right to bear arms was granted?
Why would they put the power to establish an army in an amendment when it was already in the constitution?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:50 pm to
If the right was confined to state-sponsored militias just who is this potential infringer?
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 8:34 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:51 pm to
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More of your usual ignorant horseshite

False

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Go read District of Columbia v. Heller and see how ignorant you are

LOL

Nothing in Columbia versus Heller says that prior to it it was completely accepted that the right to bear arms was only within the confines of a militia you stupid frick
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Because it doesn’t mean what you think it means.


you see this is the annoying part because tex knows what regulated meant back then. The stupid frick can read. But as per usual he's just completely dishonest

He's not a serious person. Frankly he's just a dishonest piece of shite that will lie repeatedly and isn't worth arguing back and forth with more than a couple of posts worth
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:58 pm to
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you see this is the annoying part because text knows what regulated meant back then. The stupid frick can read. But as per usual he's just completely dishonest
No idea what he knows or doesn't. But his/her position is clearly that "regulated" means "requires a permission from government". Nothing of the sort.

If it means what he claims... it would make the 2A both redundant and anomalous. Completely different than all other Bill of Rights amendments.

Completely ignorant of the etymology of the word "regulated" and oblivious to context of the surrounding document. The suggestion the Founders were this careless is beyond silly.

But much like he's clinging to a single (out of context) line in Heller... he's proving to be an embarrassment to himself. I think he's dug in so deep, he can't retreat.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 8:01 pm
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8043 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:00 pm to
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We as a society have evolved to where we don't have to go through the woods to kill dinner anymore, people don't have to do it now


You're a YUGE fricking pussy aint you? No need to answer we already know.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:03 pm to
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I would comply but I lost all my guns in Katrina

Already got rid of mine. Swear to God I did. It's state law.

Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7273 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:05 pm to
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You're a YUGE fricking pussy aint you? No need to answer we already know.


There is no doubt about it. This reminds me of “a want” so much it has to be zhe’s Alter. I didn’t think I would ever see a poster as cucky as “a want” until this giant twat showed up.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:38 pm to
I wish someone would address my question as to who is the potential "infringer" if the 2nd was not intended to apply to individuals. Was the state banned from infringing on the state's right to keep and bear arms?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:57 pm to
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I wish someone would address my question as to who is the potential "infringer" if the 2nd was not intended to apply to individuals. Was the state banned from infringing on the state's right to keep and bear arms?


None of the resident leftists are going to touch that. Hell, tex wants to pretend that everyone not in a state militia who owned firearms prior to Heller, was doing so in violation of the Constitution. Corrupt, vile, seditious socialist democrats. You can tell by their level of indoctrination that we are going to have to defeat them, because there is no reasoning with them.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 8:58 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:57 pm to
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I think it means an armed citizenry. Now tell us what your puppeteers tell you it means.

Yeah, I think in that time it meant this: should it become necessary, citizen-soldiers bring their own arms, protected by right, and form a militia in the event the need arises to protect the free state.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:14 pm to
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Nothing in Columbia versus Heller says that prior to it it was completely accepted that the right to bear arms was only within the confines of a militia you stupid frick
You're full of shite, as always. You didn't read Heller in 30 minutes.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:23 pm to
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texridder


Posted by Big Papa Satan
Hell
Member since Jun 2019
263 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:25 pm to
What part of “shall not be infringed” is so difficult to understand?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:29 pm to
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You're full of shite, as always.


Speaking of full of shite, what about the millions of Americans, who owned and carried firearms prior to Heller, since ratification of the Constitution? Does history and reality escape you?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:32 pm to
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What part of “shall not be infringed” is so difficult to understand?


He refuses to understand or acknowledge “the right of the people” so...
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2415 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:33 pm to
If you take the AR-15, then criminals will use the next most effective weapon. Then you will want to take those too. Rinse repeat.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:51 pm to
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You didn't read Heller in 30 minutes.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:57 pm to
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You didn't read Heller in 30 minutes.


You've never read Heller, you raging incompetent.


D.C. v Heller was unanimous, 9-0, that the 2nd Amendment protects an individual right and not a collective one. The 5-4 split only concerns the scope of that individual right, the decision put the final nails in the coffin of the collective right interpretation theories of the 2nd Amendment. Theories that have never enjoyed meaningful support outside of a few legal scholars and retards like you.
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