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re: A Child Born on a Cruise Ship Docked in an American Port is now a US CITIZEN!!

Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47912 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:15 pm to
we shouldnt issue visas to women this far along either, but do YOU trust the chinese to be honest about that? lol
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
2178 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:17 pm to
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we shouldnt issue visas to women this far along either, but do YOU trust the chinese to be honest about that? lol


If you're that far along it's pretty hard to hide.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56118 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:18 pm to
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Prove it.


Here's what Google AI says.....,

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Yes, a person born on a private merchant ship docked in a US port is generally considered a US birthright citizen. Because the US follows jus soli (citizenship by right of soil), anyone born on US territory—including territorial waters and ports—is automatically a citizen, regardless of the parents' nationality or legal status.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24167 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:18 pm to
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That’s actually not true. It’s literally one of the 4 exceptions listed in Wong Kim Ark enshrined in federal statute.


So you are saying the statute over rides the Amendment?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56118 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:20 pm to
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The Dems have never met a baby they didn’t want to abort but damn I think we just found a way to make them oppose abortion.


I can guarantee if there was data that showed all these anchor babies were voting +55% republican when they reach age 18 the birthright citizenship issue would have already been settled and banned.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
6965 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:20 pm to
You are probably right.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174894 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:22 pm to
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A Child Born on a Cruise Ship Docked in an American Port is now a US CITIZEN!!

Is this something that happens often?

Was this not already the case before? It seems that the status quo was just upheld and you're acting as if there were some radical changes.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:22 pm to
Tstupid won't likely respond.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26858 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:28 pm to
There's a simple remedy to stop this and it will work. You make it a felony to come to this country to have a child for this purpose., You make it a felony to assist someone in the commission of this crime, They know theyre about to drop that child and they know it's illegal so don't come here.

That way if the cruise ship brings them in you seize it and arrest the operators. Plus arrest the mother. Sure the brat is a US Citizen but the mother aint, Bust everyone's arse and this will stop.

No 14th Amendment protection for them. John Roberts cant save them.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
10332 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Prove it.


Are you wanting the OP to take you to a docked cruise ship to witness a birth?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174894 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:34 pm to
Why are you melting down about the most asinine edge case possible?

Do you think there are tens of thousands of people trying to book cruises to give birth while a cruise ship is docked? This is just an absurd legal hypothetical. It's not something that happens with frequency.

If someone is trying to have an anchor baby doing it on a docked cruise ship would be about the least successful deployment strategy imaginable.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24167 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:34 pm to
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Is this something that happens often?


I do not know, but once again, the rights of the child are not the child's. Maybe the child does not want to be a US citizen.

Immediately, POTUS Trump, by an EO, should instruct every nation that any of their citizens who have children in America will cause such nation to lose its ability to trade with America or pay a 200% tariff on all goods sold to America.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24167 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47912 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:39 pm to
i think you are missing the point. If chinese officials lie about the mother, and she arrives in guam and is clearly late term, its already too late.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174894 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Immediately, POTUS Trump, by an EO, should instruct every nation that any of their citizens who have children in America will will cause such nation to lose its ability to trade with America or pay a 200% tariff on all goods sold to America.

Yeah. Let's just double down on stupid shite because the EO predictably failed.

ETA - and you still don't understand who pays the tariffs
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16968 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:41 pm to
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A Child Born on a Cruise Ship Docked in an American Port is now a US CITIZEN!!



Psssssst..

It doesn't have to be a cruise ship and It doesn't even have to be docked.

If it's in US national waters, and a baby pops out, B.I.N.G.O. issue the social security card and sign the parents up for all the social programs.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52540 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:41 pm to
The best striker in recent memory for USA is only here because his Nigerian parents had him in NY while on vacation
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70813 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:54 pm to
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So you are saying the statute over rides the Amendment?


The courts interpreted the amendment to have 4 exceptions. Those exceptions were listed in Wong Kim Ark as:
1. Children of foreign heads of state/diplomats;
2. Children born on foreign flagged vessels operating in common waters
3. Children born of a hostile invading force on occupied territory
4. Children born of sovereign native tribes.

These 4 exceptions were then incorporated into a statute by Congress.

Yesterday’s SCOTUS opinion not only affirmed Wong Kim Ark, but confirmed that those 4 exceptions are the only possible exceptions to birthright citizenship, and that Congress nor the president can add more.

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It doesn't have to be a cruise ship and It doesn't even have to be docked. If it's in US national waters, and a baby pops out, B.I.N.G.O. issue the social security card and sign the parents up for all the social programs.


False
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24167 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:59 pm to
EOfare - let it begin!!
Posted by AUTigerking
Member since Jun 2020
666 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Prove it.


Even if not 100% true (more than likely it is at this point) it’s the same concept as a woman being here for vacation for a few days and giving birth. Your views are ridiculous. All of them
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