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re: 90,000 Coronavirus infected in China? Third US case confirmed/US warns Americans there
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:28 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:28 pm to cajunangelle
No doubt the numbers are far higher in China, but I don’t think it’s as terrible in terms of mortality.
There’s hasn’t been a single death outside of China. I’d suspect, as many have reported that a good immune system and prime age shut this thing down, no different than regular flu. It’s just this flew under the radar and spread rapidly
There’s hasn’t been a single death outside of China. I’d suspect, as many have reported that a good immune system and prime age shut this thing down, no different than regular flu. It’s just this flew under the radar and spread rapidly
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:30 pm to LSURussian
And LOTS of viruses cause the common cold, most commonly rhinovirus (>150 known strains)
Coronavirus
RSV
Parainfluenza
Adenovirus
HMV
Etc.
Coronavirus
RSV
Parainfluenza
Adenovirus
HMV
Etc.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:30 pm to deathvalleytiger10
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:30 pm to Lsut81
Didn't China have a large elderly population? The years of killing children have taken their toll on the population.
Ted Turner and the environmentalists probably can't contain their joy over mass epidemics.
Ted Turner and the environmentalists probably can't contain their joy over mass epidemics.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
*facepalm* = : dope: (remove the space after the first colon)
Eta: I’m not arguing with you about the origins of coronavirus. I’m only pointing out what the article I linked says about it.
Eta: I’m not arguing with you about the origins of coronavirus. I’m only pointing out what the article I linked says about it.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:44 pm to BobBoucher
quote:
And id like to see the numbers for the regular flu, and other plagues in history for perspective
Does the regular flu spread this fast?
We are what? One week into it being known.
Then factor in almost all of China being on lockdown.
Almost seems designer
There, I said it. Are the Chicoms killing off the burdensome elderly?
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:45 pm to MrLarson
quote:Nah, since mid-December.
We are what? One week into it being known.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:45 pm to MrLarson
quote:
We are what? One week into it being known.
No, has been going on since December... largely undetected bc it wasn’t and thing and people prob weren’t addressing symptoms thinking it was a common cold.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Why is this worthy of any more worry than that?
Because it’s new and it’s causing complete quarantines of major cities. This isn’t that hard.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:57 pm to BobBoucher
quote:
This is a nothingburger until it crosses 10-15% mortality.
my god
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:02 am to SirWinston
quote:That's what will happen after the nuclear war
Would be crazy if all that is left after some huge pandemic are remote villages of Africans
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:03 am to Floating Change Up
quote:Dr. LeBrain Jones is currently unavailable. At the tone don't even bother to leave a message he is too dumb to figure out how to retrieve it. BEEP.
Can we get Lebron to explain really what is happening over there?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:40 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:
It’s a novel strain of coronavirus
Like the novel kind from a military research lab?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:45 am to MrLarson
quote:
There, I said it. Are the Chicoms killing off the burdensome elderly?
Along with a bunch of other people. I read in another thread from a poster with family in China that the rumor going around over there is that it’s because of their social security being upside down and the government being unable to fund it any longer.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:56 am to BRgetthenet
I remember when this board lost its shite over Ebola
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:57 am to jlc05
China has:
-Quarantined a population of 56 million people
-As of Monday travel agencies have cancelled all international bookings of airlines and hotels
-All inter province bus travel has been terminated
-Starbucks has shuttered stores in an entire province of 30 million people
-All movie theaters in Shanghai have been shuttered during the busiest week of the year
Do they do this every time someone catches the flu??? I didnt think so.
Its only 2.8% death rate for those diagnosed, so if it spreads to half the population thats only about 300 times the opioid deaths in the US so whats to be alarmed about.
-Quarantined a population of 56 million people
-As of Monday travel agencies have cancelled all international bookings of airlines and hotels
-All inter province bus travel has been terminated
-Starbucks has shuttered stores in an entire province of 30 million people
-All movie theaters in Shanghai have been shuttered during the busiest week of the year
Do they do this every time someone catches the flu??? I didnt think so.
Its only 2.8% death rate for those diagnosed, so if it spreads to half the population thats only about 300 times the opioid deaths in the US so whats to be alarmed about.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:05 am to barry
I think I remember you from the golf thread when it was on the MSB.
You been good, barry? You were a stick, weren’t ya?
You been good, barry? You were a stick, weren’t ya?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:11 am to cajunangelle
Ha! U.S.A. think they beat China In Trade deal.. Now we don't need so many pig and soy bean!
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:20 am to trinidadtiger
You have look at a bigger picture. Yes, that's a lot of Influenza associated deaths in the U.S. (the vast majority, by far, are actually from complications of pneumonia in patients 65+) but if you break it down on a county (parish) basis, there was an average of only 2 deaths per week during the 13 week flu "season" per county in the U.S. in the 2018/2019 CDC numbers. It will, in actuality be higher or lower depending where you live and the population density.
The point being, that many people dying, in China, in a short period of time, in one small area, would be cause for alarm in the U.S. as it would be outside the norm here.
The point being, that many people dying, in China, in a short period of time, in one small area, would be cause for alarm in the U.S. as it would be outside the norm here.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 3:27 am to LSURussian
quote:
This article disputes your statements about the coronavirus being new. It says the coronavirus was first identified in 1960 and almost every flu is a coronavirus variation. Even the common cold is a coronavirus.
Influenza is not a type of coronavirus. The four types of influenza (A through D) are RNA viruses from the family Orthomyxoviridae.
2019-nCoV, the Wuhan virus, is from the family Coronaviridae. Historically, this family has had viruses such as those that cause viral bronchitis and has not caused as many human fatalities as Influenza A and B. This specific viral strain has an 80, 80, and 96 percent concordance with a species of bat virus according to two published and one unpublished data set making infected bats the most likely source. Note than bats are sold for their meat in the Wuhan Meat Market, and someone who worked there was patient zero.
The MERS and SARS virus are also part of this family. SARS has an observed mortality rate of around 10%, and MERS has an observed mortality rate of around 34%. The observed mortality rate of 2019-nCoV thus far is 4.6%, assuming the Chinese are telling the world the truth.
So we aren’t going to know just how bad this is going to be for a while. It has the potential to be really bad, it also has the potential to be not as bad as SARS.
What bothers me about this situation, SARS, and the various Ebola outbreaks in Africa is the unwillingness of our government to protect its citizens by implementing common sense travel bans to and from hot zones. Quarantining the sick to safeguard healthy populations is a time honored strategy that is being thrown under the bus in the name of greed and political correctness.
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 3:36 am
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