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re: 9/11 Truthers

Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:02 am to
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:02 am to
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LOL..link...that is total bullshite

Agreed.

9/11 "truthers" would never concede to logic.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:16 am to
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LOL..link...that is total bullshite


As much as you may not want to hear this, not everything in this world is not linkable. But, he was on the History Channel special about 9/11, and he stated himself that he is now focusing on Bldg7 because the other theories have been debunked. I'd look for it on youtube, but cant view videos at work.
This post was edited on 1/15/08 at 9:17 am
Posted by LSURYAN
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:22 am to
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But, he was on the History Channel special about 9/11, and he stated himself that he is now focusing on Bldg7 because the other theories have been debunked. I'd look for it on youtube, but cant view videos at work.


ok
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:32 am to
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explain to me where pools of molten metal wayyyy down in the basement of ALL three buildings came from....it was hot enough to exist months after...that does not result from jet fuel, sorry....


On 9/11, I was watching the news. Whatever channel I was watching, probably CNN, had been rehashing over the days events with a montage of clips before going to commercial. They showed a clip of what appeared to be molten lava flowing out of one of the buildings...I'm not sure which one. It seemed strange but the whole day had kinda blown my mind so I did not think too much about it at the time. When I started hearing about the thermate theories the video clip that I saw came back into memory so I tried to see if I could find it. Nothing on you-tube or any 9/11 site had anything remotely comparable to what I saw on the news that day.

Have any of the news stations who had their cameras trained on the WTCs ever released their raw footage to the 9/11 "truthers" or are the truthers stuck with watching pixilated pictures on the internet? Just curious.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:36 am to
A humorous look at the 9/11 conspiracy theories

LINK
This post was edited on 1/15/08 at 9:42 am
Posted by LSURYAN
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:37 am to
i saw that same clip on cnn only never to see it again....i cant even find it again.....i have yet to see any other videos, just the pictures
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:37 am to
That's Germans.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:39 am to
Do you know whether or not raw footage was released to any group that investigated the collapses? Popular Mechanics?
Posted by Augustus
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:43 am to
Maddox is hilarious.
Posted by LSURYAN
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:49 am to
this is the only video i can find of it and its not even showing the stuff underground

LINK
Posted by AstroCajun
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:54 am to
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My take: people love conspiracy theories in situations like this b/c they have to believe that the perpetrators were as powerful as those they attacked, they should be on an equal level. No one wants to believe some loser like Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing JFK, and alot of people don't want to believe some Arabs with box cutters brought down the twin towers.


THIS!
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:59 am to
I've seen this. It's not the footage I was referring to as you may know. The footage I saw showed what appeared to be molten lava flowing out the side of a building. I'm just very curious as to whether the news companies have allowed people to examine their video archives? I would think that this should have already been done.
Posted by LSURYAN
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:19 am to
I doubt they have
Posted by esjcats92
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:33 am to
I remember seeing the lava type flow also. What struck me as odd was the distance it was away from the heat. Anyone who has ever used an oxy-acetylene torch to cut steel knows as soon as you make your cut, the molten steel quickly cools into slag. The hottest that jet fuel burns and the temp of a torch are about the same temp, so that was kinda fishy. Also, the way the steel support beams looked they were cut at an angle. If anything, I would expect them to have a broken jagged edge, not an edge that resembled the use of a torch on them.

With that being said, has anyone used one of those charcoal starters?





You can really generate some serious heat with those things with relatively little flame. I have to wonder if the shape of the building didnt act in the same way as the charcoal starter.

Posted by LSURYAN
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:46 am to
thats a good point about how the beams were cut at an angle...i would expect them to be just snapped apart
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:48 am to
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If you feel the need to spew retarded 9/11 bullshite, can you please wait until after the election?

Sincerely,

Sane Supporters of Ron Paul


Ron Paul, himself, should probably release such a statement to his kooky supporters. Then again, they'd probably respond by turning their back on him and accuse him of selling out to the Bush Family Evil Empire.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:49 am to
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Why is it that condescending "Truthers" always anyone that doesn't agree with their view is just "taking what the government dishes out"?

I've talked to people who were in the building or on the scene when it happened that say the "official" story is total bullshite.
This is the biggest crime on my country in my lifetime.
Do I really have to apologize for wanting justice?
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:51 am to
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Ron Paul, himself, should probably release such a statement to his kooky supporters.

He shouldn't have to.

Even the kookiest of his supporters should realize that this nonsense only hurts his already miniscule chance at winning the presidency.
Posted by esjcats92
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:55 am to
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thats a good point about how the beams were cut at an angle...i would expect them to be just snapped apart
My good friend who is now deceased, was a structural steel guy his whole life, screamed conspiracy from the get go. Coincidently, his background in the military was with explosives.

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 10:58 am to
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Ron Paul, himself, should probably release such a statement to his kooky supporters.



He shouldn't have to.

Even the kookiest of his supporters should realize that this nonsense only hurts his already miniscule chance at winning the presidency.

Who is it hurting? The people that aren't going to vote for him anyway?

You actually believe someone is going to vote for President of the United States based on whether or not the people that vote for him believe the government's "theory" on 9/11?
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