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re: 9/11 Truthers

Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by WampusCat56
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:11 pm to
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The equation is H=(1/2)at2, where H is the height, a is the acceleration of gravity (10 meters per second squared) and t is time in seconds.

Ok - you have cut and paste the formula.

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According to all reports, the whole thing was over in just about ten seconds

"About 10 seconds"?? like 11 seconds?? or 12, or 13? Seems like you would be a little more precise, if this is the crux of your argument.

While you are at it, you may want to explain why the debis was falling much faster than the core of the building. If you claim the core of the building was in free fall, then that debris must have been rocket powered to be going so much faster.
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As if the entire solid structure below, the strong part which had not been burned or sliced or harmed in any significant way, just disappeared into nothingness. Gravitational acceleration CANNOT achieve its full effect if it is fighting any opposing force. In the case of the World Trade Center, the intact building below should have at least braked the fall of the upper stories. This did not happen. There was no measurable friction at all.
Let's suppose your government isnt lying to you. Let's suppose the structure were sufficiently weakened that it did fail catastrophically near the point of the airplane strike. In this case, the intact structure below would exert an upward force on the base of the upper story portion of the building (the part that has been broken loose), while any asymmetry would allow the force of gravity to work uninhibited on the tip of the skyscraper. Thus, the top section of the skyscraper would tip and fall sideways.

I am guessing that you are not in a technical field, right? You obviously know nothing of structrual mechanics or momentum. You ought not to play with things you know nothing about - you may get hurt - or embarass yourself.
Posted by LSURYAN
Dallas
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:14 pm to
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"About 10 seconds"?? like 11 seconds?? or 12, or 13? Seems like you would be a little more precise, if this is the crux of your argument.


watch the video of it and count...

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I am guessing that you are not in a technical field, right? You obviously know nothing of structrual mechanics or momentum. You ought not to play with things you know nothing about - you may get hurt - or embarass yourself.


right...i guess all those architects and engineers on ae911.com dont know ANYTHING about structural mechanics or momentum, right??

check it out...go tell them they are all idiots

LINK

also, please explain this:

Let's start with temperatures – 1,340° F. temperatures, recorded in thermal images of the surface of the World Trade Center rubble pile a week after 9/11 by NASA's AVIRIS equipment on USGS overflights. Such temperatures cannot be achieved by oxygen-starved hydrocarbon fires. Such fires burn at only 600 to 800° F. Remember, there was no fire on the top of the pile. The source of this incredible heat was therefore below the surface of the rubble, where it must have been far hotter than 1,340 degrees.
This post was edited on 1/15/08 at 9:18 pm
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
12364 posts
Posted on 1/15/08 at 9:43 pm to
Watch out, there is a boogaboo behind every bush when you listen to this nonesense. Why am I even bothering???????
Posted by WampusCat56
piney woods
Member since Nov 2005
8645 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 5:13 am to
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check it out...go tell them they are all idiots

Been there, done that - on this board - with better minds than you.

Don't need to devote energy to any more of you. I am just making fun of you now.

You - and all the rest of these 9/11 tricksters - are nuts.
Posted by LSURYAN
Dallas
Member since Apr 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 6:55 am to
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You - and all the rest of these 9/11 tricksters - are nuts.


nice cop out...i give you a link to architects and engineers and you ridicule me....classic
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 1:29 pm to
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thanks to all the a-hole "truthers" who support him, he doesn't get as many legit questions.

So, you're blaming "9/11 Truthers" for the MSM not asking legitimate questions?

You've got a long way to go. But at least you are on the right track.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/08 at 1:31 pm to
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So drone Boeings mean that those people on them really did not die and there were no highjackers? This is complete BS.

Not to mention I hold three different college degrees and can't follow this garbage.

Three college degrees, eh?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/16/08 at 1:32 pm to
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You know what is really sad is that I might have some small chance of actually voting for Ron Paul considering the rest of the candidates range from repulsive to lying shitbag for me. But then I see these nutjobs and think I must have made a grave error in judgment.

So you will instead fall back on the repulsive lying shitbags?
Are you sure you only have three college degrees?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 1:33 pm to
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Watch out, there is a Muslim terrorist behind every bush when you listen to this nonesense. Why am I even bothering???????


Fixed it
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/08 at 1:50 pm to
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Oh ok, the gubment arranged for the assassination of the hundreds of people that were supposed to be on those flights in such a way that none of their families (some thousands of people) would not question that they got on those planes that hit the towers.

God you people are ridiculous.

If I gave you $1.8 million to never open your mouth, i.e. never post on this message board again as long as you live, would you do it?

95 % accept hush money

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close to 95 per cent of the 2,976 families who lost loved ones in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania were expected to finally take the money.

To get there, they had to accept a monetary value on the lives of those closest to them, after making a case based on birth and marriage licences, diplomas and degrees, even videos. They will, on average, receive $1.8 million (all figures U.S.) each.

Some $1.5 billion had been paid from the government fund by the weekend. Compensation for individual deaths has ranged from $250,000 to $6.9 million. Those physically injured as a result of the attacks have received compensation ranging from $500 to $7.9 million.

"Only in America could there be a program like this," fund administrator Kenneth Feinberg told CNN yesterday.


I'm surprised that somewhere along the way to getting three college degrees, you didn't learn this.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
22112 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 2:10 pm to
Speaking of drones... that video was unbearable.


I was actually curious to see what these 911 "skeptics" had to say, but damn, I fell asleep after 15 seconds.

That's a sign that they are really stretching their "evidence" when they don't pause to let the points sink-in.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27584 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 2:21 pm to
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To get there, they had to accept a monetary value on the lives of those closest to them, after making a case based on birth and marriage licences, diplomas and degrees, even videos. They will, on average, receive $1.8 million (all figures U.S.) each.


For most 9/11 families, accepting that money was not an easy task. How do you put a price tag on your loved one(s)? For some, it made sense to accept the money, and move on.
Believe me when I tell you this was not "Hush money." This was "please don't sue everyone in sight" money. There were no forms to fill out saying that we wouldn't look into conspiracy theories about 9/11. There was no man in a black suit shining a spotlight into peoples eyes and threatening them.
Please let it go. Not everything in this world is conspiracy.
This post was edited on 1/16/08 at 2:40 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/16/08 at 4:45 pm to
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Oh ok, the gubment arranged for the assassination of the hundreds of people that were supposed to be on those flights in such a way that none of their families (some thousands of people) would not question that they got on those planes that hit the towers.

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To get there, they had to accept a monetary value on the lives of those closest to them, after making a case based on birth and marriage licences, diplomas and degrees, even videos. They will, on average, receive $1.8 million (all figures U.S.) each.




For most 9/11 families, accepting that money was not an easy task.

NOBODY said it was! And if you could stay on topic for more than one post you might be able to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4.

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Please let it go. Not everything in this world is conspiracy.

Then why do you continue to believe the government conspiracy theory concerning 9/11?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27584 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 4:52 pm to
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And if you could stay on topic for more than one post you might be able to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4.


Please explain. You're the one who posted a link stating that 9/11 families accepted "hush money" from the government.

I like how you take one sentence from my post to base your argument. Either you don't read past the 1st sentence, or you just don't care to read other people's opinions.

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Then why do you continue to believe the government conspiracy theory concerning 9/11?

Egads man... we could go on forever like this I guess. Enjoy your conspiracy theories, and lay awake at night knowing that the big bad government is out to get you.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/16/08 at 5:02 pm to
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that video was unbearable....I fell asleep after 15 seconds.

Your attention span extends that far, does it.
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That's a sign that they are really stretching their "evidence" when they don't pause to let the points sink-in.

Granted they did pack about 2 full days worth of information into 20 minutes or so.

I just found it interesting that they didn't simply say, oh, it's a government conspiracy and leave it at that as most 9/11 information tends to do.
Instead they named names and were very specific in naming names and very specific in why these people carried this out (who stood to gain).

They have a website and are regular guests on a Michael Bednarik ('04 Libertarian Presidential candidate) internet radio show.

I guess I shall delve further. It's quite entertaining if nothing else.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/16/08 at 5:04 pm to
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Enjoy your conspiracy theories,

I don't believe in conspiracy theories. That's why I'm not buying the government's bullshite concerning 9/11.
But you go ahead and go back to sleep, the government loves you.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27584 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 5:06 pm to
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the government loves you.


and Ron Paul loves you. Make sure to wear your tin foil hat to bed tonight.
This post was edited on 1/17/08 at 7:35 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
112031 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 5:09 pm to
Hey, Tex, how many converts to your cause, do you count yourself responsible for?

I haven't seen any on here yet, after a couple of thousand plus posts.

Keep beating the drum, bro. I'm sure, it's just a matter of time, and all us sheep will come around eventually.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 5:17 pm to
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and Ron Paul loves you.

And he loves you too.
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Make sure to where your tin foil hat to bed tonight.

I assume you meant wear.
I find it humerous that the nutjobs who subscribe to the government conspiracy theory are so quick to criticize someone else's opinion.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/16/08 at 5:18 pm to
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Keep beating the drum, bro. I'm sure, it's just a matter of time, and all us sheep will come around eventually.

Yeah, I'll hold my breath.
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