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re: 9/11 Truthers

Posted on 1/14/08 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30350 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 9:45 pm to
Ok, Yes or No answers for everyone here to see.

1. Do you believe that the Bush Family Evil Empire was part of the conspiracy to kill President Kennedy?

2. Do you believe that President Bush helped carry out 9/11?

Let's see how the Ron Paul supporters respond...
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 9:45 pm to
I got another cool theory.

Here goes....

This was a HUGE government conspiracy/cover up.

What really happened was 4 guys each hijacked a plane and crashed it.

The government, bent on total world domination, couldn't let this leak to the press. It might make people believe the government was weak and the people might rebel, ending the elites hope of forming a one world government of tyranny.

So, as witty smart as the government/elites are, the thought, "Let's times it by 5!" Someone miscounted and only placed 19 hijackers on the plane.

I cite myself as the source, since sitting on my computer seems to be the only real credential I really need in this debate.

/thread
Posted by Esarhaddon
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2006
19035 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 9:47 pm to
My take: people love conspiracy theories in situations like this b/c they have to believe that the perpetrators were as powerful as those they attacked, they should be on an equal level. No one wants to believe some loser like Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing JFK, and alot of people don't want to believe some Arabs with box cutters brought down the twin towers.
Posted by sharp
Member since Apr 2006
57 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 9:48 pm to
Why is it that every single 9/11 truther on a message board is a Ron Paul supporter. As great as his ideas are, 9/11 truthers kind of screw him over.

I won't waste my time watching the video. It feels like just last week I spent 2 hours making a guy feel like a fool over building 6. Just know that no conspiracy theory has been right. ever.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

This was a HUGE government conspiracy/cover up.

What really happened was 4 guys each hijacked a plane and crashed it.

Of all the conspiracies out there, that one is the least plausible.
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36801 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

It went into great detail explaining the who, what, where, why and how. Granted it went through it at the speed of sound but it was very specific, naming names, etc.


In my opinion, too much detail. There is no way in hell that anyone, except maybe someone serving a life sentence, could verify all the claims the video made in the 34 minutes. If the other parts of this film are anything like this, it is an even greater task.

What better way would there be to mask less than truthful or unconfirmed information? By burying it in lots and lots of other less than truthful or unconfirmed information.

quote:

I guess my first question would be, is this plausible?


Is what plausible? Citing sources? It very well better be. Again, given what I've said about the gigantinormous amounts of claims this video makes, there has to be SOME sort of collaboration to back it up...and I would like to be directed to it without having to research all 484,449,393 claims made in that 34 minutes.

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Secondly, thank you for at least giving it a look.


Hey, just ask Tigahs (but not LSUryan), I am always interested in listening to all these claims, but the burden of proof in my opinion is on those making what I consider outlandish claims.

I have conceded that it is possible that evidence of the plans for 9/11 were intentionally "disregarded" by the US government for whatever reason...and that was a huge step for me.

But claims such as these have to be collaborated and the sources cited to some extent, imo, to even consider.

Oh yeah, and explain HOW those big arse buildings were wired for demo without the inhabitants catching on. PLEASE.
This post was edited on 1/14/08 at 10:07 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

My take: people love conspiracy theories in situations like this b/c they have to believe that the perpetrators were as powerful as those they attacked, they should be on an equal level. No one wants to believe some loser like Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing JFK, and alot of people don't want to believe some Arabs with box cutters brought down the twin towers.

That could be true.
My take is that when the government shows me a fuzzy nine-frame image of what they claim is an airplane hitting the pentagon, it brings up more questions than it answers.
Hell, I've seen clearer images of Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster.
Posted by LSURYAN
Dallas
Member since Apr 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

9/11 truthers kind of screw him over.


you vote for someone by looking at his supporters or by the ideas he has??
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30350 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:05 pm to
1. Do you believe that the Bush Family Evil Empire was part of the conspiracy to kill President Kennedy?

2. Do you believe that President Bush helped carry out 9/11?
Posted by LSURYAN
Dallas
Member since Apr 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

(but not LSUryan)


whats up with that??
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36801 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

whats up with that??




My way of saying that I think Tigahs is a lot more level-headed than you are on the topic of 9/11.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Why is it that every single 9/11 truther on a message board is a Ron Paul supporter.

Maybe because we like to think for ourselves rather than blindly follow like sheeple.
quote:

As great as his ideas are, 9/11 truthers kind of screw him over.

I'm sure if you really want to you can find a reason to hate almost anyone.
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I won't waste my time watching the video.

That's a shocker.
quote:

It feels like just last week I spent 2 hours making a guy feel like a fool over building 6.

Building 6, huh? :banghead: :banghead:
quote:

Just know that no conspiracy theory has been right. ever.

Well, it's just a darn good thing you can always believe everything the government tells you then, isn't it.
Posted by LSURYAN
Dallas
Member since Apr 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

My way of saying that I think Tigahs is a lot more level-headed than you are on the topic of 9/11.


i agree with you...lol...Tigahs keeps a cool head...i tend to let it get to me....
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Is what plausible? Citing sources?

I meant is this whole idea even plausible?
quote:

Again, given what I've said about the gigantinormous amounts of claims this video makes, there has to be SOME sort of collaboration to back it up

Absolutely.
quote:

Oh yeah, and explain HOW those big arse buildings were wired for demo without the inhabitants catching on. PLEASE.

In the video it talks about a company (the name escapes me) that did the renovation on the Pentagon just before it was hit and at the precise location. The video even shows their banner still on the Pentagon (I'll have to go back and find that name).
That same company also did work in Building 7 for Giuliani's command center.
Hey, thanks for taking a look.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

i agree with you...lol...Tigahs keeps a cool head...i tend to let it get to me....

Ryan, take a look at this video. It's a whole new approach (at least as far as to who is to blame).
Posted by LSURYAN
Dallas
Member since Apr 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:26 pm to
i will definitely watch it
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

at least as far as to who is to blame


DING DING DING

The name of the game is to find who is to blame. AND, if you are late to the blame money making game, what do you do? Blame someone new!

I can't wait for the next big thing. I'm gonna make a shitload!
Posted by sharp
Member since Apr 2006
57 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

you vote for someone by looking at his supporters or by the ideas he has??


No. Never. I support Dr. Paul. I just hate to see so many of his supporters undermining his credibility with this shite. Please see my response to the RP bigotry thread. I support him till the end.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48246 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:32 pm to
kook alert
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48246 posts
Posted on 1/14/08 at 10:32 pm to
kook alert
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