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re: 87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:43 pm to TOSOV
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:43 pm to TOSOV
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Did catch which insurer but apparently one is now increasing premiums like 200 bucks based off these #s.
States better start suing in our behalf when it's clear fed intrusion/collusion is getting out of control.
Just heard it's Delta Airlines charging non vaxxed 200 more a month. Which doesn't seem proper.
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:45 pm to Stidham8
Hospitals numbers are not trust worthy
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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And who are those deaths mainly comprised of?
People? Why is the number of deaths the same this year as last?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:46 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Let’s look at the another way. 16% of UAB icu patients are vaccinated. That’s an awfully high percentage when you consider the constant drum beat of vaccination.
well done and so very true
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:48 pm to ChexMix
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Hospitals numbers are not trust worthy
Really? Multiple people talk with the patient and document whether they had the vaccine or not.
No one's skewing numbers.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:49 pm to Stidham8
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That's referring to patients admitted for Covid-19.
Well, that's a little misleading. Not suggesting you purposefully misled anybody. But when you post that and follow it up with the rest of what you've posted in this thread, you're giving the impression that ICUs are filling up with unvaccinated CV19 admits that are otherwise healthy.
I checked for AZ's situation just now and their CV19 website is down for maintenance. I know we've seen the spike in cases here, but I don't think deaths have come anywhere close to tracking that trend. I would assume that's also true of ICU admits.
A couple of months ago the story on Delta was that it was more transmissible but weaker than the original copy. Is that still the thinking?
And I appreciate your answering my questions, by the way.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:49 pm to David_DJS
I don’t know how many times you want me to repeat that I have a problem with our lack of data regarding reinfections, and no I don’t have access to every statistic for every age, weight, risk factor , etc. etc .
I don’t work for the Health Department. You want me to pull it out of my arse?
I don’t work for the Health Department. You want me to pull it out of my arse?
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:49 pm to David_DJS
quote:No.
Are any CV19 admits asymptomatic?
Do admits for other Dx's turn out to be CV19+?
You bet your arse!
Are they ultimately considered CV19 "admits"??
Follow the money .....
.... yes
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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If you can't understand the social context of human immunity, then I'm skeptical that you can be convinced.
I understand basic high school biology concepts just fine but you must feel awesome and super smart with your slick post there I bet. I'm choosing not to contribute my natural immunity to the pot or die trying. Sweden did it. Why can't we?
I wonder why they never post the reinfection rate among recovered people? My assumption is you can't make money off natural immunity.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:51 pm to tigerskin
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I don’t know how many times you want me to repeat that I have a problem with our lack of data regarding reinfections, nor every statistic for every age, weight, risk factor , etc. etc .
I don’t work for the Health Department.
And I don't know how many times you want me to repeat that this information is strangely missing ... everywhere. And you being an MD, I'm interested in why you think that might be. Seems to me that given what's transpired over the last 18 months, your industry would be analyzing the frick out of CV19.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:54 pm to Stidham8
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Why does this board ignore data like this?
Because it does not fit their political presuppositions.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:54 pm to David_DJS
My personal opinion is that they know the reinfection rate is low over 8 months or so and want more people to get vaccinated.
I have heard the excuses about “how hard it is to collect that info of who all really had Covid before.” That isn’t good enough for me
I believe in complete transparency. I don’t get to make that call
I get that frustration.......I really do
I have heard the excuses about “how hard it is to collect that info of who all really had Covid before.” That isn’t good enough for me
I believe in complete transparency. I don’t get to make that call
I get that frustration.......I really do
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:54 pm to Stidham8
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84.6% of hospitalizations for COVID-19 overall are from patients who did NOT receive the vaccine.
Why does it matter to you if random people on a message board do or don’t take it.
Go tell your family and loved ones if you are so concerned. Don’t worry about me. I’ll worry about myself and my loved ones.
It would be one thing if Vaxxed people didn’t spread the COVID. But we see that isn’t the case.
So go ahead and get your vax and leave the rest of us the tuck alone.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:55 pm to NC_Tigah
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No.
I read a Stanford teaching hospital report on their CV19 "data" - they reported 30% of CV19 patients were asymptomatic, and another 40% were mildly symptomatic. To be clear, this was for 20 and younger, so I'm sure that skews the data somewhat. And it's just one hospital, I get that. But my point is - my general impression was there were more people hospitalized for reasons other than CV19 that are recorded as CV19 patients than you guys are suggesting.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:57 pm to GatorReb
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Why does it matter to you if random people on a message board do or don’t take it.
Like it or not, that is what physicians do
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:58 pm to ShoeBang
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I understand basic high school biology concepts just fine
Clearly.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:01 pm to HailToTheChiz
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We have heard about overrun hospitals for two months. It's a bunch of exaggerating
My wife runs a hospital…it is no exaggeration but you with no insight into actual hospitals have formed a false truth.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:02 pm to David_DJS
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Seems to me that given what's transpired over the last 18 months, your industry would be analyzing the frick out of CV19.
I can’t tell exactly what doctors are doing. It’s hard to believe that individual doctors aren’t prescribing safe drugs that have some evidence in their favor, in the absence of absolutely proven drugs, if for nothing other than the placebo effect.
Multiple docs in this thread. What exactly do you do for COVID patients?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:07 pm to Ted2010
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Because it does not fit their political presuppositions.
bullshite, man. I’m worried about my real children, the real life we are living, the real future of this country based on the precedents that have been set. I was 100% against Trump and his stupid phases for reopening, as if it’s his damn prerogative to tell us whether we can live our lives.
Ever since this started, the hand has been heavy on the scales, skewing the information we are given and the story we are told, every step of the way trying to stoke fear and control behavior. It is not our fault we don’t trust the powers that be on this.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:12 pm to Stidham8
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84.6% of hospitalizations for COVID-19 overall are from patients who did NOT receive the vaccine.
So.
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