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re: 87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:31 pm to LSU316
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:31 pm to LSU316
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Unvaccinated Israelis represent only about 20 percent of the population eligible for a vaccine, but they now constitute half of all serious COVID-19 cases in the country.
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As of Tuesday afternoon, 330 out of 679 seriously ill patients were unvaccinated, while 16 were partially vaccinated and 333 were fully vaccinated. There are 168 patients currently in critical condition and 123 are on ventilators. Even so, the number of seriously ill vaccinated patients appears to have plateaued.
Its the same thing as despite being on 13% of the population blacks represent 50%+ the violent crime. At least be intellectually honest here folks. Its also the delta variant getting in on both populations.
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:31 pm to Stidham8
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:31 pm to Stidham8
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The pandemic isn't going away with our current vaccination rates.
It would if it was just allowed to run its course in the first place while we protected the old, fat and otherwise compromised. Just ask Sweden.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:31 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:the vaccine is not good. You will have long term consequences for you taking it. LOL at you
Doesn't make the vaccine bad though.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:32 pm to ChexMix
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the vaccine is not good.
Says the guy that can't do basic math
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:33 pm to Lg
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Any idea why?
Yeah. The decision to include non-pathogenic immunologic elements through another viral vector was probably the worst molecular strategy for this particular virus.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:33 pm to Stidham8
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People are admitted to the ICU's daily that don't have Covid-19. That hasn't changed.
So you made a mistake in the title of this thread?
What's the relevance of "87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine"?
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:33 pm to Stidham8
Also keep in mind that this same government openly calls us “terrorists”
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:33 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:What?
Says the guy that can't do basic math
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:34 pm to ChexMix
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You will have long term consequences for you taking it.
Like what?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:34 pm to Stidham8
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You're going to be just fine
Does any data exist to back this up?
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this pandemic.
No pandemic exist.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:35 pm to ChexMix
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What?
Don't believe I stuttered. Or do you not find probabilities to be basic math? That would explain a lot.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:35 pm to David_DJS
I ain’t got that number memorized. I am sure you have looked it up
a thousand times. Even if I said .05 percent, that is a risk not worth taking in my professional opinion. But obviously you may see that differently
a thousand times. Even if I said .05 percent, that is a risk not worth taking in my professional opinion. But obviously you may see that differently
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:36 pm to Stidham8
I agree vaccines lessen disease severity.
Your statement about icus staying overrun is the same denialism you are accusing others of. Natural infection immunity is real and contributes to herd immunity that will occur in likely the near future.
It is concerning that people ignore this and the huge gap in risk between the elderly and metabolically unhealthy.
It’s also concerning to wonder if folks may be pushing for ineffective nonpharm interventions (masks, quarantine) and booster shots every 8 months. How could you think a departure this far is normal?
Your statement about icus staying overrun is the same denialism you are accusing others of. Natural infection immunity is real and contributes to herd immunity that will occur in likely the near future.
It is concerning that people ignore this and the huge gap in risk between the elderly and metabolically unhealthy.
It’s also concerning to wonder if folks may be pushing for ineffective nonpharm interventions (masks, quarantine) and booster shots every 8 months. How could you think a departure this far is normal?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:37 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Oh, i get it. YOu couldnt provide the proof that the vaccine increases my chances of survival so you just attacked me instead, talkin shite about math or whatever
Don't believe I stuttered. Or do you not find probabilities to be basic math? That would explain a lot.
Youre a clown.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:37 pm to theunknownknight
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He’s literally talking about my actual job
quote:No. By all means, no.
Wanna try again?
My God!!
You are a perfect fit in healthcare administration.
Congrats! you've found your dream job.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:39 pm to David_DJS
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So you made a mistake in the title of this thread?
What's the relevance of "87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine"?
That's referring to patients admitted for Covid-19.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:41 pm to tigerskin
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I ain’t got that number memorized
Seriously? You're an MD, and Covid has dominated this country, your profession, our politics and economy and culture, for 18 solid months, and you don't know what the mortality rate is for a healthy/fit adult not old, not young?
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I am sure you have looked it up a thousand times.
You can't find it. And that's my point. Why don't we know the answer to that question? frick, why doesn't an MD know the answer?
Or answers to questions regarding natural immunity? Why hasn't your profession been on top of this shite?
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Even if I said .05 percent, that is a risk not worth taking in my professional opinion. But obviously you may see that differently
Of course.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:42 pm to Upperaltiger06
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I agree vaccines lessen disease severity.
Your statement about icus staying overrun is the same denialism you are accusing others of. Natural infection immunity is real and contributes to herd immunity that will occur in likely the near future.
It is concerning that people ignore this and the huge gap in risk between the elderly and metabolically unhealthy.
It’s also concerning to wonder if folks may be pushing for ineffective nonpharm interventions (masks, quarantine) and booster shots every 8 months. How could you think a departure this far is normal?
Herd immunity seems to be working out well. The state has a net negative number of ICU beds with thousands hospitalized, with ~85% of those having not received the vaccine.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:43 pm to LNCHBOX
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That's your choice imo. Doesn't make the vaccine bad though.
Never said it doesn't work.
My main points about not wanting it:
1. Chances of death or even hospitalization is so low, I don't see the merit in bringing in additional variables that I do not know how I will react to.
2. I worked in corporate america for a long time. I've seen bullshite PR speak and heard the meetings where it was discussed exactly how to say something to make it look better than it was but also not really lying so that in the event of a lawsuit, it was ambiguous at best. I see the exact same bullshite being thrown in my face every day now about this vaccine and its necessity for every human being to take it. Not you specifically.
3. Speaking of corporate America, I have seen wayyyyy more than half of the "rushed" jobs where the "red tape" was gone on large industrial projects go to shite because someone made a very minor mistake and somehow it wasn't noticed until it was too late to fix. Forgive my hesitancy to inject one of those debacles into my veins never to be removed. The same dipshits that work in Industrial engineering work in Pharm. It's just a job to them, but it is my life and my kids' lives to me. Not risking that until there is several more rounds of refinement on these things to work the kinks out.
4. Guilt trips are what people use when they can't argue with facts or when they try to convince children to do something. We've had that guilt trip spewed by everyone from some count at the grocery store to the fricking pope. Suspicious at absolute best. Appealing to emotion is bullshite for kids and retards.
Put all that together and there is no logical reason for me to need the vaccine, so I will not take it.
Being that at the peak a few weeks ago, they were averaging 50 people in my age range per day being admitted state-wide vs a population of 600,000 in the age group, I like my chances. Sure those guys probably thought the same thing, but some people are luckier than others. If I get burned I get burned, but I do have Ivermectin in my house :P
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