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Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:51 am to anc
Geo location data. It’s available but I’m not sure who would have access to it. You can absolutely track this so it not out of the realm of possibilities that this is true.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:52 am to Asleepinthecove
I know generally about the concept
But is it possible it's only a subset, and thus these big round numbers are actually a percentage of a much smaller subset available (both as to location data and the users).
I had the same questions about the first Trump shooter phone data, which seemed like it was only a small portion of data they were sorting through over a pretty long period.
But is it possible it's only a subset, and thus these big round numbers are actually a percentage of a much smaller subset available (both as to location data and the users).
I had the same questions about the first Trump shooter phone data, which seemed like it was only a small portion of data they were sorting through over a pretty long period.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:53 am to IvoryBillMatt
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It's called geofencing.
Geofencing is typically dependent on GPS and would be dependent on users all opting into some kind of application that actually makes use of geofencing (and all having it either open on their phones or passively running in the background). The issue in plausibility is that Apple, for instance, has several anonymization features in place before handing over any geocoded data to a third-party so the outbound IPs that any third-party would receive would likely be dynamic and couldn't be compared from event to event. Obviously there are exceptions to all of this info but it's extremely doubtful that these exceptions would account for 54% of all observed traffic between Nevada and Arizona.
Further, the only way the information in the OP could really be collected is through highly illegal means and the only way it could actually be validated is via a 3 letter agency or state sponsored effort (and even then, unless everyone at the rally is all connected to the same wifi, it'd be highly unreliable unless they're pulling info from cell towers which also poses issues with reliability when you have thousands of people... and this information usually takes a second to collect). Any cybersecurity consulting company that actually has the capacity to perform this kind of analysis would never engage in it due to the huge liability, herculean effort needed (<- this can't be stressed enough), illegal nature of the project, and difficulty in validating the results.
I've seen this guy's posts numerous times and he claims to be a NSA contractor. That said, his security clearance would be immediately revoked (at best) if he was actually engaging in this type of operation and publicly posting results.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:03 am to Boss13
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This seems like nonsense. I'm not saying her support isn't contrived, but who would have access to the cellphone tracking database? That seems like a huge legal issue.
I’ve bought this info for a marketing campaign. You have no privacy.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:05 am to CoachChappy
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Im joking, just joking
Are you???? Am I????
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:07 am to Boss13
They know where you are right now. hows that
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:07 am to Jake88
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They don't know that.
But you are on board with the same type of tracking used to convict Jan6 people?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:08 am to AquaVitae
Yea it’s def easy and legal to do.
The question is did this guy actually do it. I can see someone that really likes that stuff easily following around events like this to see interesting trends
The question is did this guy actually do it. I can see someone that really likes that stuff easily following around events like this to see interesting trends
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:13 am to Boss13
You can buy geofenced cellphone data from numerous Ubiquitous Technical Surveillance (UTS) companies. It is based on your personal Advertising ID assigned when you create a Google or Apple account. Look it up. They know where you are all the time and what content you view on line. It should be illegal but all of the 3 letter agencies also buy it.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:14 am to TheGoodNews
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That said, his security clearance would be immediately revoked (at best) if he was actually engaging in this type of operation and publicly posting results.
Thanks for all the details. My knowledge was based on the fact that I was offered geofencing as part of a marketing package. It was very clear: "You will be able to text messages to these cell phone numbers that were present at an event likely to contain promising leads."
Are you saying that would be illegal?
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 11:16 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:16 am to dalefla
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You can buy geofenced cellphone data from numerous Ubiquitous Technical Surveillance (UTS) companies. It is based on your personal Advertising ID assigned when you create a Google or Apple account. Look it up. They know where you are all the time and what content you view on line. It should be illegal but all of the 3 letter agencies also buy it.
This is different than collecting all IPs in a particular geolocation at one time from thousands of different models cellphones (many with different service providers), though. Also, to compare the IPs and get a 54% return rate they'd have to all be static.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:17 am to IvoryBillMatt
It should be illegal. It's a fourth amendment issue that our government is ignoring.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:18 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Thanks for all the details. My knowledge was based on the fact that I was offered geofencing as part of a marketing package. It was very clear: "You will be able to text messages to these cell phone numbers that were present at an event likely to contain promising leads."
Are you saying that would be illegal?
No, those users opted into something along the way or all signed up for the same app or agreed to some terms of service. Geolocation is used for advertising all the time, it's true. But it's a different thing than collecting all IPs from a particular geolocation at one time with any degree of reliability.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:19 am to Vacherie Saint
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The tech is legit, not sure about the dude making the claims.
This is the right view, imo.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:20 am to dalefla
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should be illegal. It's a fourth amendment issue that our government is ignoring.
I agree, but the 4thA only restricts governmental actions.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:20 am to anc
Oh God it is from Tony Seruga.
That guy is a sack of shite. Please stop posting stuff from Tony Seruga
That guy is a sack of shite. Please stop posting stuff from Tony Seruga
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:21 am to Boss13
I guess what I've learned from this is that literally everyone has access to where I am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:21 am to anc
Are these the same people who told us
“We tracked 60,000 Antifa to the DNC in Chicago.”
Because that turned out to be bullshite.
“We tracked 60,000 Antifa to the DNC in Chicago.”
Because that turned out to be bullshite.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:22 am to CoachChappy
AOC would call the UN and claim it to be a "Humanitarian Violation"
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