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re: 50 shell-shocked teachers, staff flee chaotic Florida school district

Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:27 am to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:27 am to
All these teachers need to be slamming their unions, and stop worrying about hurting kids feelings. This is all brought about by being soft and attacking parents who are not soft and still parent properly.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:32 am to
The solution is extremely simple. Kick the troublemakers out of school. Arrest them if they come back on campus. Arrest them for any assault. Sentence them to hard labor in the harshest terrain in the state. Ban welfare for anyone without a high school diploma or GED.

These people don't actually want solutions, though. Their whole goal is to destroy everything and bring everyone down to the level of their plantation slaves.

On a side note, how many of these teachers pay dues to a union that turns around and donates to democrats who created this problem in the first place?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:34 am to
These kids likely have a terrible home life with zero accountability, parental care, or responsibility and the fine folks at the NAACP think the solution is to emulate that at school as well. You're basically walking these kids straight to prison or a life of poverty.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30546 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:34 am to
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become how the real world works


Well but it doesn't really work...

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hoping this is a pendulum swing are missing this part.


It will never swing back... personal responsibility and being held to a standard left the building a long time ago...
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:41 am to
Culture shock? Or cultural trauma?

What these teachers are experiencing was not explained to them in advance and in detail during their times in the propaganda mills.

It's been going on here for two generations.

Awhile back, while we were in the throes of the dysfunction that none of us asked for, a group of naive, idealistic, quixotic white girls from Minnesota and Wisconsin with their recently acquired Education degrees organized and planned to come down here to the backward South and right the problems we were experiencing in the schoolrooms to show us what classroom instruction was all about.

With all the attendant fanfare and celebration from the local t.v. media.

This was when our school system was operating under a quarter of a billion dollar budget - for a system that kept getting smaller each succeeding year.

It took less than a year for them to steal away discreetly, quietly back to the safety of their homes up north; done without the attendant fanfare or publicity from the local media, if only to ask them "why" were they giving it up so soon.

What ever problems they had convinced themselves that they were coming here to remedy are still there.
Posted by markinkaty
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:42 am to
Yep, you hate your kids if you do not discipline them.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:50 am to
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Maybe they should just punish the kids that misbehave and ignore skin color.

When the overwhelming majority of kids who misbehave all share the same skin color, how can we seriously expect skin color to not be brought up?

We all know it's a culture problem and not a "skin color" problem, but the groups like NAACP are so firmly rooted into the foundations of affirmative action and CRT and "muh institutional racism" that they can't be reasoned with. Even if they're disproportionately behaving horribly, it's still somehow the fault of wypipo.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2861 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:54 am to
This is not unique to Florida. I know many teachers in Louisiana and have heard the similar stories.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:05 pm to
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This is how shitholes are born. You’re witnessing the birth of one.
I’m fairly confident that outside of Miami Dade, Brevard has had close to the top public schools in the state the last decade or two.

I’m not sure what has happened.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15541 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:06 pm to
All the suburban liberal white Karen teachers who vote democrat should have to spend at least five years in one of these schools.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:11 pm to
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There are many black kids being victimized by these idiots as well.




This is true, and is sad for them. But by and large, what the media defends as "black culture" is nothing more than hyper violent gang culture.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:14 pm to
This is why I'm all for school choice. When everybody wants their kids to go to the "white school" then they'll have to participate in the conversation, instead of leading it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:40 pm to
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This is the issue with public education at this point.

Every other issue is secondary.

We have feral children that cannot be disciplined due to lawyers, the Department of education and years of silliness from our culture.

If you could go to any elementary school in any large city and observe for one week, you would wonder why they have any teachers.

This is actually one of the few issues in life I get emotional about.

All this system does is severely, negatively affect poor minority students who are denied even the chance at an education because these fricking idiots want to cater the system to protect the worst of the student populations. The really insane part is that these idiots truly believe that they can reform these kids.

So they act all high and mighty and above any criticism because they're "saving children" while literally destroying children and doing nothing for the children they are "saving".
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:42 pm to
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If that’s the podcast I think it is, I recommend listening to it. “Nice White Parents.” It’s a study in what’s going wrong in education in many ways.



Context? Like a hint of why it’s good.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:43 pm to
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So they act all high and mighty and above any criticism because they're "saving children" while literally destroying children and doing nothing for the children they are "saving".


There’s fewer than 3% of the students that are holding the rest of the school hostage to their insane, out-of-control behavior.

My youngest daughter went to a public school for a couple years and we moved her to private halfway through second grade. I remember picking her up her second day of class and asking her how the day was. She said “Good. All the kids do what they’re told. No one throws desks and no one throws chairs.” That was a sobering conversation. It was also 10 years ago.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:44 pm to
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You're basically walking these kids straight to prison or a life of poverty.

Trying to have an honest discussion about this is so frustrating.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:46 pm to
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There’s fewer than 3% of the students that are holding the rest of the school hostage to their insane, out-of-control behavior.

Exactly.

But it grows as they get older because each lowest tier of good student succumbs and by high school it's like the opening scene of lean on me.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125759 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Context? Like a hint of why it’s good.


The reporter is pretty thorough about some things which paints an interesting picture. The stuff she leaves out also paints an interesting picture. Almost nowhere in the discussion is any talk of student achievement.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125759 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:49 pm to
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and by high school it's like the opening scene of lean on me.


Also, everyone with the means to leave that district, whether by buying a home in a different district or moving their kid to private school, has done it by that point.

When St. Louis first initiated forced busing, they couldn’t conceive that people would move an hour-and-a-half away from their city jobs if it would give their family safety and their kids a better education.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17001 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:52 pm to
My God. Where does she teach??
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