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re: 40.1 percent of U.S. households pay no income tax

Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1025 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:51 am to
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It would be immeasurably impactful for my family to just go ONE year without paying federal income taxes. Wish somehow that could become a thing to have once or twice in a lifetime to get a one year reprieve.


You realize that the people who arent paying federal income taxes generally arent making $200,000 per year? The median household income of the bottom 40% is $30,000 per year.

Its easy to avoid taxes - just be poor, or very rich.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9333 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:52 am to
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Flat tax! If you need proof our government is retarded the fact we don’t have a flat tax is all you need.


Flat tax 100%. If the government needs more more they would need to raise the flat tax on everyone. Watch how fast government spending would curtailed then.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26066 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:53 am to
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Many real estate professionals pay no income taxes. Should they be barred from voting as well?
Yes. If you don't pay a net of at least $3000


I'd rather have an IQ test as a requirement rather than income based.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2350 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:54 am to
When the country was founded only landowners got a vote. I’d be all for that again. Why should anyone have a say and how tax dollars are spent if they are not providing any of those tax dollars?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17278 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:56 am to
For over 30 years I paid more in taxes than double the average income of married couples up till about 5 years ago. I took early SSI as I can never collect what I paid into unless I get to my 90’s, family history says I am reaching my limit and I’m not even 70 yet. The difference in my SSI was about 700 per month and I did the math and knew I could never get close to what I was forced into paying. That is just flat money with no interest collected. I hope this country gets tough and soon as our kids and grandkids have a hard road already but future generations could have a chance
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3652 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:57 am to
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Great point. Thanks for the explanation.


And to the OP point, the current US Senate has no incentive to change their policies. Use the few taxpayers left to buy votes from the non tax payers.

I think that money is the fundamental issue in DC. Money is power in DC and too much of it concentrated in the federal government.

You don’t give a crack addict more crack to get them to recovery.

Repealing 16 and 17 Amendments is the first step to fixing that problem, imo.

The EC congressional model and abolishing primaries are the first steps to getting away from fringe candidates and making every vote in the POTUS race mean a little more. A democrat in Mississippi and republican in California both have an incentive to vote if their vote could sway their congressional district and candidates will have to appeal to a broader voter base vs a handful of winner take all states.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31817 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:58 am to
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Flat tax 100


That number sounds a bit high.
Posted by uaslick
Tuscaloosa
Member since May 2011
1194 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:01 am to
We need to get that up to 100%.
Posted by tygerfan1
Member since Aug 2008
2631 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:13 am to
I've heard Dave Ramsey say 48%
Posted by kenna bra
Kenna bra
Member since Jul 2020
79 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:36 am to
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Abolish income tax and put it all on sales and property tax. That will still hit the higher income people but nobody will skate by completely.



Property tax should be illegal. If the government can auction off your land, then you never actually owned the land in the first place.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35052 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:42 am to
This is not sustainable. We are headed for a severe crash
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116771 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:45 am to
Kamala is going to 'help the taxpayer' by increasing the earned income tax credit. That's not a tax cut. That's an increase in a welfare check.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
2934 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:47 am to
40.1% SHOULD NOT VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
8394 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:49 am to
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40.1 percent of U.S. households pay no income tax


This country ran for 150 years with no one paying income tax
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6211 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:53 am to
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40.1 percent of U.S. households pay no income tax


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If you don’t pay taxes, you shouldn’t get a vote.


If you consume anything, you pay taxes. They may not be “income” taxes as there are plenty of other forms of taxation such as sales tax, property tax, gasoline tax, tax on your phone bill and so forth.

The Sons of Liberty were not against taxation,
they were against the lack of representation. Taxes as the price that we pay for living in a civilized society. While it’s rooted in Biblical principles, I would say that the general idea of “We the People” also presupposes that those who have benefitted more from their pursuit of happiness contribute in the same manner so that others may as well. Some will scream “muh socialism” - but graduated
tax rates is NOT making everyone equal financially (ie socialism).


Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6133 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:56 am to
That’s why a flat tax rate would be the fairest avenue.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 12:03 pm to
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It would be immeasurably impactful for my family to just go ONE year without paying federal income taxes.
I had a bet once with a receptionist. She said she didn’t mind higher taxes since she “got money back” every year. I bet her taxes were her largest monthly expense, and she said “no way, rent is definately higher”. I said bring me a pay stub, I bet you $20.

She did and was not happy. First, she owned me $20. Then she discovered she was “rich”. It was indeed her largest mothly expense. “How can I be paying the government more than my rent and food combined”. I think I created a republican thst day.

And it is for most people. But the government forces us employers to do the collecting. If people had to write the checks for it—we’d have a revolt within six months.

All this holds true—while the “middle class” actually contributes very little to government funding. It is insane how much our government is taking from us. While spending is into oblivion via debt.



This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
2934 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 12:10 pm to
Not the same concept.

Income taxes are significantly higher.

Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
2934 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 12:14 pm to
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This is why democrats win elections. Almost half or more want the party of entitlements in office.


Keep them healthy enough to produce more uneducated voters, that is what the welfare system does.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 12:48 pm to
Add that to the households of illegals.
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