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re: 3rd party: are you willing to lose for a while?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:44 pm to Shamoan
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:44 pm to Shamoan
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3rd party only works when 1 side isn’t cheating.
It would certainly help if the party being cheated fought like hell to prevent it, but we don’t see that in any shape or form. frick the GOP, I changed my affiliation to independent weeks ago
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:46 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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But it will probably spawn a 4th party of socialists.
Which I’m fine with. Everybody lay your cards on the table.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:46 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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Are you willing to let the Dems win, while fracturing the Conservative vote with the Republicans?
Absolutely. The Republicans can all fall and die on the knives they continuously stuck in DJT’s back
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:49 pm to KCRoyalBlue
You underestimate the draw a 3rd party could have. Trump has shown he can pick off the union vote and made significant gains in the black community. Legal immigrants from Cuba and other countries living in Florida show that the Democrats don't have full control over that block. I know everyone is screaming for the Patriot party, but maybe the prosperity party would be a better name? Who can argue against prosperity for all?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:49 pm to Jake88
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No. Ross Perot gave us the Clintons.
No. George Bush and "Read My Lips No New Taxes" gave us the Clintons.
And if everyone would have just bit the bullet and abandoned the GOP then we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:56 pm to KCRoyalBlue
Repubs are not conservative anymore.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:57 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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1. Are you willing to let the Dems win, while fracturing the Conservative vote with the Republicans? At least in the beginning?
It doesn’t matter if we are willing to let the socialists win. It does matter that Republicans aren’t willing to oppose not only the marxist democrat agenda, but open, obvious election fraud in order to win. So if it doesn’t matter if the Republicans are willing to let the marxist democrats win, why should it matter to the PP members? Republicans could easily align themselves with the party that actually puts America first, and works every day to destroy America’s enemy within, could they not?
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2. How long are you willing to take losses, if the 3rd party continues to grow?
Asked an answered, essentially. We took losses when we had the House, Senate, and the White House, because too many Republicans are in China’s pocket, and put themselves and their party ahead of the American people. Republicans are now the minority in the House and Senate, and Biden is in the White House, and no sensible person can believe that a Republican can win any seat that the Democrats want. So marxist democrats can impose their will, while we continue to pray to suckass Republicans for salvation, or they can impose their will while we get our shite together, and show Republicans how to fight, and oppose our own demise. I’d rather die a patriot, than live as a subject to either party.
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3. How many 2-year election cycles do you think it would take for a 3rd party to be competitive?
Define competitive. Done correctly, and with steadfast, fierce leadership bent on putting America first and destroying our enemies, in 8 years the Patriot Party could be larger than the essentially dead Republican Party.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:58 pm to KCRoyalBlue
yes our votes dont matter now anyways
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:01 pm to Seldom Seen
Election night: OMG underdog 3rd party candidate is winning!
5 days later: oh well lifetime Democrat "came back" after all the votes were finally counted.
Repeat, repeat, repeat
5 days later: oh well lifetime Democrat "came back" after all the votes were finally counted.
Repeat, repeat, repeat
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:04 pm to KCRoyalBlue
I will not vote for another spineless Republican incumbent. If that means Independent, Libertarian or a fresh Republican in a primary vs incumbent, so be it. I’m done toeing the line and not have them fight back. frick a blue - red wave...I want a new wave and to see every Cucked GOP incumbent voted out.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:11 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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1. Are you willing to let the Dems win, while fracturing the Conservative vote with the Republicans? At least in the beginning?
Yes, continuing down the path of holding your nose while voting for the lesser of two evils does nothing to change anything. For anything to change, whether a third party of reform of the republican party, conservatives are gonna have to not vote for republicans for a while. This whole idea of keeping democrats from winning at all costs provides no incentives to reform the republican party, as all republicans have to do is just be slightly better than democrats.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:13 pm to KCRoyalBlue
No. And it's a terrible idea. Next question.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:16 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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2. How long are you willing to take losses, if the 3rd party continues to grow?
How long on you going to continue to vote for dims that say they aren't!!! Wake the F up. I guess you want to win with the republican ticket like we did in 2020. They have the house the senate and the white house. How is your plan working out.
Third party... second party... fourth party... all are doomed to lose from here on out.
Unless the military steps in it is over.
This was the 9th inning. So stop preparing for the next inning. The 10 inning doesn't exist.
Military is the only option.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:26 pm to KCRoyalBlue
With the strong possibility of a 3rd party entering the fray in the near future, some questions need to be asked of Conservatives.
If you decide to vote 3rd party:
1. Are you willing to let the Dems win, while fracturing the Conservative vote with the Republicans? At least in the beginning?
Do we have any choice in this, so the answer would be yes.
2. How long are you willing to take losses, if the 3rd party continues to grow?
Until we win 1!
3. How many 2-year election cycles do you think it would take for a 3rd party to be competitive?
I think putting the right candidate against a weak GOPe, can happen in 2022.
If you decide to vote 3rd party:
1. Are you willing to let the Dems win, while fracturing the Conservative vote with the Republicans? At least in the beginning?
Do we have any choice in this, so the answer would be yes.
2. How long are you willing to take losses, if the 3rd party continues to grow?
Until we win 1!
3. How many 2-year election cycles do you think it would take for a 3rd party to be competitive?
I think putting the right candidate against a weak GOPe, can happen in 2022.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:28 pm to KCRoyalBlue
I am not “willing to lose” - I am looking forward to it.
Cannot wait.
Cannot wait.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:34 pm to KCRoyalBlue
I don’t know the answer.
But I do know we have been losing for decades.
But I do know we have been losing for decades.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:57 pm to Rohan Gravy
For clarification to some commenters, I'm fully willing to vote 3rd party and take some lumps.
I'm hoping Trump can build a true Constitutional Patriot party to destroy the Republican establishment and overrun the Dems.
I'm hoping Trump can build a true Constitutional Patriot party to destroy the Republican establishment and overrun the Dems.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:00 pm to KCRoyalBlue
I’m already losing at this point why not keep trusting the same fricks that have done frick all.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:03 pm to razthecat
I would rather lose with people like me than lose with make believe republicans. So yes. I’ll lose for a while.
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