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re: 3rd party: are you willing to lose for a while?

Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:11 pm to
Let me know when you can win against a rigged election.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5562 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:12 pm to
Yes. F the republicans.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:16 pm to
We've been losing since Regan( minus a 4 yr period where the Dims miscalculated Trump voter turnout) and we just now figured it out. What the hell are a few more elections gonna matter if it take that long for a viable 3rd party.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:18 pm to
If elections don’t matter, then the system deserves to be razed, and a new one formed.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

If you decide to vote 3rd party:

1. Are you willing to let the Dems win, while fracturing the Conservative vote with the Republicans? At least in the beginning?

2. How long are you willing to take losses, if the 3rd party continues to grow?

3. How many 2-year election cycles do you think it would take for a 3rd party to be competitive?


Look at what we got with Mittens, Paul Ryan, Turtle, Lindsay Graham, Kemp, Rafflesberger (GA SOS). They did not help Trump with investigating solid election crimes. They did nothing for their constituents. They protected the Deep State. What is different with them? The Deep State Repubs collude with the dims. NOT ONE PERSON WENT TO JAIL FOR SPYING ON TRUMPS CAMPAIGN.
A vote for a dim is a huge loss. A vote for a repub is a loss.
There are no other options.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

1. Are you willing to let the Dems win,
I didn't have to go any farther.

The dims will win forever if we continue to pin our hopes on the swamp bottom feeders called the rep party.

Hell yeah, I'll take my chances with another party!
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27932 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:27 pm to
The only way that will work kind of fast. Take over the democratic party. Run real conservatives as democrats.
Posted by ExQalibur
London, United Kingdom.
Member since Jan 2021
60 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:43 pm to
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Centrist conservatives have been losing for over 30 straight years in this country at least.


Exact same pattern in Europe too, but well, ain't that much of a coincidence, if we imagine that is just the same side of the curtain, managed from the very same people.

But yeah, centrism has to go out the window, regardless.

And I'd suggest its time to take into consideration that the so called "democracy" might have outlived its historical period....mainly due to the average western citizenry.
So theres that, the baddies want a global(ist) autocracy....any road out of this might be the good one.

Anything goes, its now clear that playing by their rules means a perpetual defeat.
Looking for alternatives has to be the way to go.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:45 pm to
Competitive? They can rig an election any way they want now. Votes on the federal level will never be real again
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