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2020 election fraud question
Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:23 pm
Why do you believe biden got 81 million votes? Can you produce the evidence or do you just blithely believe the government?
According to Pew, Trump's election day tally doubled Biden's. In other words, it's easy to prove Trump's 74mil votes because they were largely cast in person. On the other hand, states fought tooth and nail against presenting evidence for Biden's votes and plenty of mail in fraud has been shown.
State run audits merely recount the same problematic votes again. They don't show the fraudulent votes and they weren't transparent audits like the Arizona audit. There's no reason to appeal to them in propping up the election results.
When the evidence has been presented in court, Trump won court cases. Why are we not erring on the side of caution and investigating every instance of alleged fraud?
The main point is trust. How are you not being naive when you just blindly trust what the government says without legitimate, transparent investigation and trial? People keep saying "Trump lost, get over it" and "Kracken" and "MyPillow guy grift." Ok, prove it. Show me Biden's 81mil votes. Or just keep on stupidly allowing the government to rape you.
According to Pew, Trump's election day tally doubled Biden's. In other words, it's easy to prove Trump's 74mil votes because they were largely cast in person. On the other hand, states fought tooth and nail against presenting evidence for Biden's votes and plenty of mail in fraud has been shown.
State run audits merely recount the same problematic votes again. They don't show the fraudulent votes and they weren't transparent audits like the Arizona audit. There's no reason to appeal to them in propping up the election results.
When the evidence has been presented in court, Trump won court cases. Why are we not erring on the side of caution and investigating every instance of alleged fraud?
The main point is trust. How are you not being naive when you just blindly trust what the government says without legitimate, transparent investigation and trial? People keep saying "Trump lost, get over it" and "Kracken" and "MyPillow guy grift." Ok, prove it. Show me Biden's 81mil votes. Or just keep on stupidly allowing the government to rape you.
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:40 pm to TheQuestion
No one believes he got 81M votes. They know they cheated and they know we know it as well.
The entire world knows there was a coup on President Trump and Americans are like the new French… low t cowards.
The entire world knows there was a coup on President Trump and Americans are like the new French… low t cowards.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:46 pm to TheQuestion
It is insane that they still pretend that Pedo Joe Briben got 81 million votes. Pure stupidity.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:04 am to TheQuestion
If a person is looking at the numbers both Trump and Biden’s vote totals are wild. And I mean wild as in unbelievable.
Almost as many votes were tabulated in the 2020 election (I did not say voters voted) as there were registered voters in 2016.
157.6M registered voters in 2016
155M votes tabulated in 2020.
Almost as many votes were tabulated in the 2020 election (I did not say voters voted) as there were registered voters in 2016.
157.6M registered voters in 2016
155M votes tabulated in 2020.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:13 am to TheQuestion
First of all, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
But for me when I looked at where the extra votes came from voter fraud made less and less sense.
First of all the 3 states that had the biggest voter increases were Hawaii, Utah, and Vermont. Why would those states cheat?
Secondly, when you look at the map of where Biden gained votes you see that it was mostly in the suburbs. Why and how could they cheat in the suburbs?
Thirdly, all the polls, even ones that are historically favorable to Republicans, had Biden up by 5 to 10 points. I don't put a lot of trust in polls, but they would have to be in on the steal to be that far off.
And finally when you make it easier to vote, then lazy people, i.e. liberals especially younger ones, will turn out in higher numbers.
I don't blithely believe anyone. I do my own research.
But for me when I looked at where the extra votes came from voter fraud made less and less sense.
First of all the 3 states that had the biggest voter increases were Hawaii, Utah, and Vermont. Why would those states cheat?
Secondly, when you look at the map of where Biden gained votes you see that it was mostly in the suburbs. Why and how could they cheat in the suburbs?
Thirdly, all the polls, even ones that are historically favorable to Republicans, had Biden up by 5 to 10 points. I don't put a lot of trust in polls, but they would have to be in on the steal to be that far off.
And finally when you make it easier to vote, then lazy people, i.e. liberals especially younger ones, will turn out in higher numbers.
I don't blithely believe anyone. I do my own research.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 12:28 am
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:25 am to westerntigerfan
quote:tell me why they stopped the count in six swing states, kicked out all observers and counted in secret in the middle of the night until the flipped the results at 4 am in the morning
I don't blithely believe anyone. I do my own research.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:38 am to ChexMix
quote:
tell me why they stopped the count in six swing states, kicked out all observers and counted in secret in the middle of the night until the flipped the results at 4 am in the morning
That only happened if you get all of your news from conservative treehouse.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:53 am to TheQuestion
Only ronbots pretend to believe biden got 81 million votes.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:56 am to GregMaddux
quote:
Only ronbots pretend to believe biden got 81 million votes.
Name them.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:04 am to the808bass
quote:
a person is looking at the numbers both Trump and Biden’s vote totals are wild. And I mean wild as in unbelievable.
Almost as many votes were tabulated in the 2020 election (I did not say voters voted) as there were registered voters in 2016.
157.6M registered voters in 2016
155M votes tabulated in 2020.
Even with 2020 likely driving higher turnout the numbers do seem extremely high
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:55 am to westerntigerfan
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And finally when you make it easier to vote, then lazy people, i.e. liberals especially younger ones, will turn out in higher numbers.
And this is where the fraud was at. What you are failing to explain is that the states legisture is supposed to be used as a way to change voting laws. In 2016 voting laws were changed in key states to allow mail in voting and other means of voting without using the states legislative branch to change laws. The SOS of these states changed them using executive power that it doesn’t have. That is a fraudulent election when it’s all said and done.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:09 am to westerntigerfan
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And finally when you make it easier to vote, then lazy people, i.e. liberals especially younger ones, will turn out in higher numbers.
And you also make it easier for voter intimidation and other people filling out the ballot for the intended voter, either knowingly or unknowingly to the intended voter.
How hard is it for the democrats to contact every majority black church in the country? Pastor goes door to door, asks have you filled out your ballot for Biden yet? No? Well lets sit down and fill it out and I'll drop it off for you, or give it to me and I'll take care of it for you. Church gets a nice donation.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:19 am to ChexMix
quote:
tell me why they stopped the count in six swing states, kicked out all observers and counted in secret in the middle of the night until the flipped the results at 4 am in the morning
That's just pure horseshite. Prove it.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:23 am to westerntigerfan
quote:Perhaps you missed the question?
But for me when I looked at where the extra votes came from voter fraud made less and less sense.
"Why do you believe biden got 81 million votes? Can you produce the evidence or do you just blithely believe the government?"
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:33 am to westerntigerfan
quote:No; Sorry; it happened in REAL TIME for those of us who stayed up watching the results. Apparently you were sleeping.
That only happened if you get all of your news from conservative treehouse.
In the middle of the night, count tallies ceased in PA, WI, GA, AZ, MI. When swing state Election Night vote-count updates ceased, Trump maintained comfortable leads in each state, no exceptions. When they resumed, Biden jolted ahead in each instance.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:38 am to TheQuestion
quote:
investigating every instance of alleged fraud?
DEMS have engaged in massive election fraud for over 100 years - they found they could totally control big urban areas with 'just a little help' from their cohorts in the voter registration departments. Dead people been overwhelmingly casting ballots for a century.
The answer to = why hasn't anyone spoken up before? is a good one - but it is because it IS so widespread that they'd have to rat on their family, their neighbors, their friends - and themselves. It IS BAKED INTO THE MORAL code (if DEMs have a moral code)
What is different in 2020 is the massive SPREAD of the fraud made possible by the MAIL-IN-BALLOT and out-in-the-open BALLOT HARVESTING - everyone knew what was going on, but everyone also knew it was just a matte of SCALE wrt to what THEY had been doing all their lives.
It is PART OF THE PLAYBOOK - always has been in DEMOCRAT politics. It is like LSU with JOE BURROW finally at the helm. We surprised EVERYONE with our overwhelming success. And we're not about to give all that up and say "yeah - we were shite without him"
UNLESS we can roll back MAIL-IN-VOTING - and return to PAPER BALLOTs with SAME DAY voting combined with PHOTO ID there will never be another FAIR election marred only by ROOKIE numbers of fraud. We'll never get rid of all the fraud in big urban areas. Democrats cheat - they lie in their campaigns - they physically intimidate you with their unresisted RIOTs - and now they have the magic potion of MAIL-IN-BALLOTs to totally overwhelm ANY effort by the GOP to 'out-ballot' them.
It is the way of life for DEMOCRATs - GOP has a few scalawags too, but the vast majority of CONSERVATIVEs are honorable people.
Not so with Democrats - they abandoned ANY moral restraints decades ago. And the Clintons practically made it an existential requirement for participation.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:42 am to the808bass
quote:
Almost as many votes were tabulated in the 2020 election (I did not say voters voted) as there were registered voters in 2016.
I have studiously avoided referring to the Totals as VOTEs - I have been calling them BALLOTs for two years now - the VOTES are totally arcane ideas - all that matters are the BALLOTs.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:45 am to westerntigerfan
quote:
That only happened if you get all of your news from conservative treehouse.
That is only disbelieved if you get all your news from the MSM.
You probably only get exposed to tidbits of truth on this forum when you see something that is totally foreign to what you have been fed.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:03 am to westerntigerfan
quote:
First of all, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
This is the saddest thing I see every day - the biggest fallacy wrt what is happening I've ever seen.
What happens when someone calls 911?? - does the operator say "Prove it" or do they send someone out to look into the situation??
conservatives have been calling the equivalent of 911 for three years. And what have they gotten?? - they are ridiculed for being a 'denier' - they are smugly made fun of at the gatherings of their enemies - they are put on TRIAL themselves with myriads of COMPLAINTs - and are sent to JAIL if they do not meekly fall in line with the mouth-breathers.
What did DEMs 'prove' before they launched the RUSSIA RUSSIA hoax for 6 years??
What did DEMs 'prove' before they launched two IMPEACHMENT trials??
What did DEMs 'prove' before they attacked Kavanaugh??
What did DEMs 'prove' before they started the RACE RIOTs with Brown, Floyd, et al
etc etc etc
:yack: DIMs have never PROVED ANYTHING - in FACT they have not only been PROVEN WRONG, but have been PROVEN to have engaged in CRIMINAL ACTs in just making the ALLEGATIONs - yet they still smugly pat themselves on the back because they know the FIX IS IN!!! - THEY can do whatever the hell they WANT and conservatives have to put up with it or risk being put in JAIL.
Yet they can STILL summon the whole nation to come to a halt at the mere POSSIBILITY that one of them may get their "feelings hurt."
The biggest cowards - they most pathetic excuses for human-kind ever evolved - totally irresponsible and cowardly.
quote:
First of all, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
/\ the biggest piece of nonsense gaslighting ever uttered /\ yet any DEMOCRAT can mouth the words in their sleep - and most of them do.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:07 am to westerntigerfan
Thanks for playing. Go back to lurking.
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