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re: 2020 election fraud question
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:15 am to shoelessjoe
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:15 am to shoelessjoe
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And this is where the fraud was at. What you are failing to explain is that the state's legisture is supposed to be used as a way to change voting laws. In 2016 voting laws were changed in key states to allow mail in voting and other means of voting without using the states legislative branch to change laws. The SOS of these states changed them using executive power that it doesn’t have. That is a fraudulent election when it’s all said and done.
/\ THIS /\ is the key takeaway from 2020.
NO WAY could Biden have taken any state not totally controlled by the DEM machine.
The corruption is now so widespread that very few elected officials care one whit about what the VOTERs think - they ONLY think about how the SYSTEM can be tweaked to benefit THEMSELVEs.
There are problably only a few DOZEN true patriots in the federal government at ANY LEVEL and from ANY POLITICAL party.
And I doubt there are even TWO Democrats who are totally driven by 'what is best for the voters' They have yielded their efforts toward satisfying their DONORs (in the best attribution) or their fellow CONSPIRATORs (in the more common attribution) or their fellow TRAITORs (in the worst attribution)
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:23 am to westerntigerfan
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First of all, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
B***S***
Accessing/obtaining any and all election related evidence should never be a burden on a U.S. citizen. The burden to follow procedural, legal, and constitutional (US & state) requirements is on the accused. The burden to preserve & produce evidence supporting those actions is also on the accused.
Instead, laws were changed and/or broken, & required evidence was never presented, was destroyed, or never even existed. The vast majority of which belongs to the public by individuals & entities that are employed to serve the public.
Any cooperation was not devoid of delay and/or resistance.
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But for me when I looked at where the extra votes came from voter fraud made less and less sense.
Why?
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First of all the 3 states that had the biggest voter increases were Hawaii, Utah, and Vermont. Why would those states cheat?
They wouldn't. How does a voter increase in 3 states who represent 13 electoral votes total lead you to even ask that question?
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Secondly, when you look at the map of where Biden gained votes you see that it was mostly in the suburbs. Why and how could they cheat in the suburbs?
You're assuming those "gained votes" are legitimate out of hand.
Why? To win.
How? By manufacturing ballots/voters/votes via manipulation/exploitation of voter rolls, absentee voting, & machines/tabulators.
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Thirdly, all the polls, even ones that are historically favorable to Republicans, had Biden up by 5 to 10 points. I don't put a lot of trust in polls, but they would have to be in on the steal to be that far off.
What did those polls tell you in 2016? Does driving a biased narrative to manipulate public opinion mean they're "in on the steal"? To think there are none would be rather naive, as would be any anticipation of them admitting it.
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And finally when you make it easier to vote, then lazy people, i.e. liberals especially younger ones, will turn out in higher numbers.
Pretty weak, and inconclusive.
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I don't blithely believe anyone. I do my own research.
Do more. Those are probably the worst arguments I've seen to date.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:38 am to westerntigerfan
The tell tale on this election grift was the bellwether counties. Trump won all but one. Winner of previous elections always won out those. The 2-3 am dump changed all Trumps numbers from up to down with reports showing 100% turnouts for Biden. I’ll never believe it wasn’t rigged
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:58 am to westerntigerfan
Oh, you sound soooooo smart. How can TD rubes keep up with you?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:03 am to Nosevens
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The tell tale on this election grift was the bellwether counties. Trump won all but one. Winner of previous elections always won out those. The 2-3 am dump changed all Trumps numbers from up to down with reports showing 100% turnouts for Biden. I’ll never believe it wasn’t rigged
/\ THIS /\ is what I have always based my first instinct on for determining 'how it's going' for national elections.
But even then, you have to take into account the effect of MASSIVE ALTERATIONs to the PROCESS.
2020 was an OUTLIER in with respect to ANY election ever held - the very fundamental of what it even MEANs to 'cast a vote' was totally un-ended.
Prior to 2020, there was SOME homage paid to the age-old concept that "voting is a solemn process" - to be accomplished in a sober, fundamentally sound manner, with meaningful thought as to the consequences of the results, worthy of a persons' best efforts to perform properly.
in 2020 - "they" reduced the 'voting process' to be more akin to choosing 'cutest' boy in 7th grade = deserving of no more than a glancing thought.
and by "they" I mean those who have been attempting to change the fundamental character of the nation for over a century now.
THEY have worked ceaselessly to subvert EVERYTHING that made America the most productive, most compassionate, most advanced, most forward looking, nation the world had ever seen. And it was all based on the 'rugged individual responsibility' felt by the majority of its citizenry and the demands THEY made in the character of their leadership.
Parasites did not advance well in that system - the layabouts were left behind in social advancement, but even THEY were well taken care of to the extend that their suffering was minimized.
But this meant that politicians had to WORK HARD to gain the trust of the VOTERs and then to PERFORM satisfactorily to retain their official status.
The communists could not compete - and knew they could NEVER catch up unless they changed THEIR fundamental precepts - or destroy that underlying character of the American population.
Socialists chose the latter - and for over a century, they have whittled away at that character.
And they are winning. We are now merely a sad reflection of what we once were.
I fear that my cohort will be the last to have known the joy of pure liberty and satisfaction of real achievement.
My ancestry handed my team the ball and collectively, we have fumbled it.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:05 am to westerntigerfan
Does your research prove Joe Biden was half as popular as Cankles or Barry? I mean he only got, at the most, 20 people to attend his campaign rallies.
If you can prove he was at least half as popular as the two clownsmentioned above, I will be quiet and believe Joe Biden got 30% more votes than either of them ever got in any election!!
If you can prove he was at least half as popular as the two clownsmentioned above, I will be quiet and believe Joe Biden got 30% more votes than either of them ever got in any election!!
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:26 am to westerntigerfan
quote:The burden of fair and honest elections is on all Americans; that one side is averse to that creates an untenable position. A position that mandates investigation and resolved remedy.
First of all, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
quote:When a party becomes committed to stealing elections, it doesn't turn on like a light switch. They prepare and build that over time, over past elections.
First of all the 3 states that had the biggest voter increases were Hawaii, Utah, and Vermont. Why would those states cheat?
All of the cheating regions are planned and worked on in advance.
Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Minnesota, Nevada, Michigan and others were already planned. They are working on taking iron rule for their oppression everywhere now. If you can't see this, you are a victim with no chance of survival; and no future for your future, and your future generations.
We know that to be a fact looking at the Ruby Freeman admission, the actions of Brian Kemp, Raffensburger... others in all of those states. Georgia was planned in advance. FACT. Jocelyn Benson and other unsavory criminals have been planning election theft and are still working on election theft...
So what if those three states showed evidence of the same kind of election fraud. Criminals are likely working on them and others now.
Remember how they talked about it. "Georgia is turning blue" "Colorado is turning blue" "Texas is turning blue" "Arizona is turning blue", etc. This narrative, this extensive psy op includes many facets of cheating - and you can not deny the network of media/corporate fascism, and weaponized government, the hijacking of economic statistics they have take over by their lies and manipulation.. Election interference by such actors is through the roof. It is everywhere.
There is ongoing cheating going on by these actors. They want to further install their oppression and the further theft of our representation; and our freedom. Every American, your ancestors, would see the attacks on America.
Your "research" is weak, as is your attitude.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 7:30 am
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:38 am to David_DJS
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Name them.
Jon Ham and DisplacedCuckeye for starters
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:20 am to texridder
Watched it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears. As soon as Arizona was called they started announcing the counts were done for the night. I guess you'll say they never said a water main broke in Georgia causing the count to stop there
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:25 am to Vrai
Trump got fewer votes than Hilary
He can loose to anybody and everybody
He can loose to anybody and everybody
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:32 am to Tmcgin
What does that have to do with the count stopping?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:42 am to Timeoday
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If you can prove he was at least half as popular as the two clownsmentioned above, I will be quiet and believe Joe Biden got 30% more votes than either of them ever got in any election!!
the main thing that happened was voting against trump.
your post asks who liked biden. your question is the wrong question.
the issue was whether to give Trump 4 more years.
i suppose your love and appreciation for trump has until now prevented your understanding the 81 million.
trump was reviled.
look at the Trump approval numbers.
around 40% approval.
about 56% DISAPPROVE.
the disapproval is how he lost.
the 40 approve is reflecting 95% gop approval.
approval is 5% among democrats.
IND is the story.
he lost his IND edge from 2016.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 8:49 am
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:47 am to CelticDog
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the main thing that happened was voting against trump
How’s that logic working out for you morons?
“I hate Trump so I’ll vote for the corrupt, racist, establishment, pedophile Big Guy”
Bunch of damn imbeciles.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 8:48 am
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:00 am to Paddyshack
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Bunch of damn imbeciles.
dude
elections are always a comparison.
and it seems we get part2 for 2024.
very old biden.
seditious conspirator Trump.
ill vote old over the espionage doc thief.
lll vote old over the seditious conspirator.
ill vote D down ballot over a whole party of venal liars and enablers.
you have few honest republicans.
liz cheney.
Murkowski
Romney
the rest only care for themselves.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:06 am to CelticDog
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the main thing that happened was voting against trump
So your saying 96% of the registered voting electorate voted?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:12 am to CelticDog
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seditious conspirator Trump. ill vote old over the espionage doc thief. lll vote old over the seditious conspirator. ill vote D down ballot over a whole party of venal liars and enablers. you have few honest republicans. liz cheney. Murkowski Romney the rest only care for themselves.
There’s no one on Earth dumb enough to believe what you just posted.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:27 am to TheQuestion
He did get 81 million. And heads up, he’s going to beat that number in 2024. Becuase that’s what happens (more voters) in virtually every election going back 200 years. It’d be statistically significant if he didn’t.
LINK
The tragic part about the whole voter fraud narrative is it gives millions of
MAGAs false hope that he’s an actually electable winner (and his endorsements). They’re going to back him for years and continue to drag the GOP down. Despite the fact that’s he’s been getting his arse kicked 3 straight cycles with really no end in sight.
Dukakis, Gore, Dole, Kerry, McCain, Romney, Hildawg, are all losers who f***ed off when they lost and nobody tried to run them again. At this point, Trump (and the “election fraud” narrative) is a gift to the democrats that just keeps giving.
LINK
The tragic part about the whole voter fraud narrative is it gives millions of
MAGAs false hope that he’s an actually electable winner (and his endorsements). They’re going to back him for years and continue to drag the GOP down. Despite the fact that’s he’s been getting his arse kicked 3 straight cycles with really no end in sight.
Dukakis, Gore, Dole, Kerry, McCain, Romney, Hildawg, are all losers who f***ed off when they lost and nobody tried to run them again. At this point, Trump (and the “election fraud” narrative) is a gift to the democrats that just keeps giving.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:29 am to mwade91383
Then why don't they just accept the gift instead of trying to get him off the ballot
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:31 am to mwade91383
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He did get 81 million. And heads up, he’s going to beat that number in 2024. Becuase that’s what happens (more voters) in virtually every election going back 200 years. It’d be statistically significant if he didn’t.
Tell me you don’t understand numbers in one sentence.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:33 am to Vrai
Who’s doing that? Link?
Trump running is best case.
Trump running is best case.
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