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2 Ukrainian prosecutors concoct wild conspiracy that Biden received $900,000

Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:33 pm
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In late January, then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko met with Trump lawyer Rudolph Giuliani and started feeding him conspiracy theories without any supporting evidence.
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Giuliani supplied notes of the Jan. 25-26 conversations with Lutsenko to the U.S. State Department, which turned them over to Congress. They also include an account of a Jan. 23 phone call with Lutsenko’s predecessor, Viktor Shokin.
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Much of what Lutsenko told Giuliani amounted to unsubstantiated claims debunked as groundless by officials of the U.S. and Ukrainian governments, journalists, anti-corruption activists and others.
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Even Lutsenko has since rescinded key allegations – including that he had evidence of crime by the Bidens. His reversals caused Giuliani to lash out at Lutsenko and accuse him of dishonesty.
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Shokin has surfaced giving testimony in an Austrian court in support of Ukrainian gas tycoon Dmytro Firtash, who is in a years-long fight to stop extradition to the U.S. on bribery charges that he denies.
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Daria Kaleniuk, executive director of the Anti-Corruption Action Center, called Shokin’s affidavit “a lie” his explanation of the reasons for his dismissal as “nonsense.” Shokin was fired for sabotaging corruption cases.

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Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:34 pm to
You can relate to them, texdiddler
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:36 pm to
Is that a Putin owned website?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20211 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:36 pm to
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texridder


Thanks for saving me the time reading that TLDR mess by identifying who the poster of it was!
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25314 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:37 pm to
Biden is dirty. However, in all fairness, that is not why he will never be President of the United States or why Trump will spin him up like a top.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:37 pm to
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texridder


How does feel having to defend Democrats? Especially against allegations that originally were charged against Trump, but then backfire spectacularly on the Democrats so much so, that you now have to defend the accusations against your guy that you were once lobbing at Trump?

It must be incredibly tiring.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62423 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:38 pm to
Burisma attorneys said they manufactured the corruption charges against Shokin with help of US officials. The admitted it in writing...
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9298 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Much of what Lutsenko told Giuliani amounted to unsubstantiated claims debunked as groundless by officials of the U.S. and Ukrainian governments, journalists, anti-corruption activists and others.



There they go using those words again.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146700 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:38 pm to
It is a communist web site. Too bad no one can believe any news here in MSMedia America or elsewhere.

We will never know if Biden got more money. What does WaPo say?
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76664 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:38 pm to
Imagine being dumb enough to convince yourself Biden and his son didn't make dirty money in Ukraine.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34901 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:39 pm to
John Solomon nixed that on Beck this morn. He has the money ledgers, and there is no record of payment.

Ought to check John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi and Mitt Romney's Kin...who all have gigs in Ukraine. And I used to think Romney was a decent sort.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:40 pm to
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Daria Kaleniuk, executive director of the Anti-Corruption Action Center, called Shokin’s affidavit “a lie”
Apparently you don't know the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) was a Biden-Obama-US creation. NABU is up to its eyeballs in the swamp cesspool. You should know that before quoting it as a source again.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:41 pm to
Texridder is colluding with the Russians!
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9291 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:41 pm to
What is required to categorize an allegation as:

1.) debunked as groundless
2.) credibly accused
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16411 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:42 pm to
Conspiracy theories without evidence. That sounds very familiar and if anyone understands what that is it would be the mentally ill left and their clown following.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:42 pm to
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Much of what Lutsenko told Giuliani amounted to unsubstantiated claims debunked as groundless by officials of the U.S. and Ukrainian governments, journalists, anti-corruption activists and others.
In other words, not a goddamn thing was "debunked" and is all true.

Thanks for confirming it for us, TexTard.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Burisma attorneys said they manufactured the corruption charges against Shokin with help of US officials. The admitted it in writing...


According to Soloman. Again. It's always him. Either he is the most connected person ever, or he is a slightly less crazy Alex Jones.

He was moved to the opinion side of The Hill at one point, wasn't he?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Apparently you don't know the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) was a Biden-Obama-US creation. NABU is up to its eyeballs in the swamp cesspool. You should know that before quoting it as a source again.



But even so, how do we figure out who to trust? I mean, do you trust Shokin? Do you trust those two guys that got indicted today who were working for Rudy?

The problem is that it's easy to dismiss almost everyone involved in this Ukraine stuff. So who's left?

Berman? Barr?
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
4753 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:46 pm to
All Ukrainians are crooked, which means Biden is crooked.
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