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LukeSidewalker
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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Whatever you are going through Luke, keep asking questions, keep learning, and search the scriptures for the answer. Read the Bible in context. Don’t be content with what you are describing as enlightenment that occurred several months ago. Learn about God. Pray to him. Bring your life in line with his requirements.


Amen brother! During this time off from work today I read all of genesis and it was beautiful. I know I’ve only just begun the journey and I truly thank you for your bible knowledge here today. Means a lot.

I have learned already in my short walk that I need him everyday. God bless you.


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LukeSidewalker
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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Then after all that, think about this really hard: What is God’s purpose for mankind? Here is a hint: Adam and Eve


To live without sin?


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Bass Tiger
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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I have a question for Luke or Revelator, or anyone who has a response:

You say God has a ‘plan’ for everyone(this on its face is a moot point since God, according to the Bible ‘purposes’, he does not plan, but that’s another topic maybe). Since he has a ‘plan’ for everyone, what was his plan for the 1-year old that got killed in a car accident last week, and whose parents can’t bare to live anymore?


You have to begin with the understanding we live in a fallen and wicked world, now you have a basis for why bad things happen to innocent people.

If a child dies in a car accident or died from falling out of a 5 story window that was left open, someone made a mistake or used poor judgment and a death was the result. There was free will involved in both circumstances and the Creator never restrains our free will, it’s the most important aspect of the relationship between man and God. The toughest deaths are children who get cancer or other potentially terminal diseases and regardless of how faithfully we pray the prayer for healing is not answered. It’s easy to say where’s God? Why didn’t He heal my child? My child is/was innocent.

We Christians believe a blameless and innocent Jesus Christ was scourged, mocked and crucified for our sins, we understand that God our Heavenly Father, through His will, allowed the sacrifice of His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Jesus Christ will not perish but will receive eternal life in His presence.

My response to your question is not to cause confusion but to encourage your desire for answers to life’s questions in a fallen world. Humble yourself before the sovereign Creator, then ask and it will be given, seek and you will find, knock and a door will be opened.

I implore you to read the Bible and if you have read the Bible read it again and pray earnestly to God before you read for understanding. God will not force Himself on you, you have to want the Truth. There’s a separation of the wheat from the chaff in this life and only the wheat will find good storage.


Bass Tiger
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
Devout: totally committed to a cause or belief.

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A devout atheist


That is not a thing bro.

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looks at people of faith, particularly Christians as an impediment to a godless world without moral absolutes or without judgment.


Is this Poe's law? I cannot tell if you genuinely believe this.

News flash: Atheists are moral because it is the right thing to do and leads to a happy, fulfilling life.

Are you only good because you are worried you will be smited by God?




Oh it’s a thing bro. I’ve seen atheists who are much more committed to their belief in nothing created everything. These atheists are devout when compared to faux Christians who believe abortion, homosexuality, false prosperity scripture (monetarily) etc. are somehow based in scripture.



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Bass Tiger
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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Madking
Looks to me like you think being an atheist is an excuse to judge everyone else. It’s a safe space for cowards afraid to be wrong so they mock people of faith as a defense mechanism. Of course not all atheist are this way but it’s obvious you are. I don’t believe in any religion because I’m against any global consolidation of power but imagine what this world would be without it. There would be no society, there would be absolute anarchy.


Who’s judging who and by what authority? I don’t see atheists being persecuted by Christians, I see Christians offering to share their testimonials and Truth. There are tens of thousands if not millions of Christians who have been persecuted or put to death since Christ died on the cross by people who were threatened (convicted ) with the Creator’s Truth,


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Giantkiller
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
I love God and Jesus too...

But what the frick are you talking about? What makes you think Jesus would be so standoffish and acting like an a-hole? Every Bible I’ve ever read, as well as you, never had a Jesus that behaves this forceful.

Calm down.

Praise Jesus. Praise the Lord. Stop being a dickhead.


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Corso
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
I'm not flaming at all I'm genuinely curious about this, nobody has ever explained to me what Jesus' death has to do with our sins. Why does this man being executed affect our sins? And what is/was the effect? Was it supposed to be hitting the reset button? What about the people who lived and died before that? I've never understood the correlation between somebody else's execution, the bad acts we have committed, and what the end result is supposed to be


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VOR
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
I freely admit that my stroke prompted me to turn to God. And I ow can say that I’ve
Discovered that Bod is real and is a loving. Generous God.
As for me!, I’m not certain there is a preplanned life for each of us. I do nott think God is responsi le for my stroke (meaning he didn’t cause it to happen to me for some reason). He allowed it to happen and it’s up to me to work through it
Thankfully, I don’t think we are given anything that we can’t handle. We can ask for and receive the strength. It is already within us if we look for it. Okay, that’s all of my Sermonizing, Everyone take care and be safe. If you get the chance, do something good for somebody.
Somebody.


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Crimson1st
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Member since Nov 2010
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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You are in effect saying a 1-year old is now part of God’s heavenly host of powerful angels? What merited such a lofty calling?


Not touching the other part of your post due to the hour, but humans are NOT angels nor do they become angels upon their death.


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TigerNOLAGirl
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Member since Dec 2019
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
This is an LSU board.
You have no place here.
I don't want to go to the OT board & hear about you fappin with a Collie.


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tidalmouse
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
It's the ultimate peace.

It was like laying down all the baggage I had been carrying.God set me free.

I live for the Glory of God.Spread his Love.

I'm happy every day.The girl at the store thinks it's because I'm high;and sometimes I am.But that's not why I'm always in a good mood.
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RCDfan1950
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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Then after all that, think about this really hard: What is God’s purpose for mankind? Here is a hint: Adam and Eve


Good stuff, E.

Question: Would Love (Unity) be more perfectly manifest within a Singular, all encompassing, totally-unified Entity (AKA God)...or a created scenario wherein said Entity broke Itself into 'pieces' ('children')? It is obvious that the creation of imperfect/limited 'pieces', would essentially be the creation of 'evil'...so, the question...would the creation of 'children of God' and the 'necessary evil' therein, be worth it as a more perfect expression of Love?

Can't wait for your answer.


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Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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We know for a fact that the 2 foundational pillars of society are War Policy and Religion. Take away either and you have complete chaos. The odds of our species success without either drops astronomically.

Our ancestors made enormous strides long before anyone dreamed up the Abrahamic religions. The only reason anyone is dependent upon religion is because they have been conditioned by society to believe they are.

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You worship money, status, media, all man made and flimsy without any foundation to them.

1. I live in a small apartment.
2. I drive a vehicle that's over 15 years old.
3. I shop for clothes at Walmart most of the time.
4. I don't own a TV.

I'm not poor by any means, but I live a simple life. Outside of my professional responsibilities, I mostly just like to learn and travel and live a quiet life.

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False equivalency...so you're saying, basically, you can toss all religious convictions into the same category even if there is just one path of truth in the lot? I'm sure there are folks who would subscribe some pretty nasty attributes to you that many Godless folks partake in if we can just dump everyone into the same group and apply it to all parties in that large group.

My point is I hear people from many faiths talk about how certain they are that their religion is correct and that they can "feel" God's presence and direction. Obviously they can't all be right and when you look closely and see that they clearly believe what they do because of their culture and heritage, it's hard to take them seriously.

We're discussing religion on a message board composed almost entirely of people from the southeastern United States. You people are Christians because you were raised to believe it. If you had been born in Baghdad, Iraq, you would have very different beliefs. This is virtually indisputable, but few people are willing to accept it.

I believe that if there were truly a deity working behind the scenes in this world that religion wouldn't be so closely tied to culture.

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Minds that get warped are gonna get warped religion or no religion. The very tech we’re using right now is as bad as it gets when it comes to warping minds. At least religion tells us to take some responsibility where’s these places are havens for victimhood.

Who needs religion to be responsible? If I don't work and pay my rent, it won't be Jesus that kicks me out of my apartment. If I drive 80 in a 55, it won't be Jesus that writes me a ticket. If I chain smoke every day, it won't be Jesus who gives me a cancer diagnosis.

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You have to begin with the understanding we live in a fallen and wicked world, now you have a basis for why bad things happen to innocent people.

We live in a world that was harsh and brutal long before humans arrived. Death was waiting for us. We didn't create it. Humans have always had to fight to live just like every other species.


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Crimson1st
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Member since Nov 2010
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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No, he said "few things warp the mind like religion".

And he's absolutely correct.




First he absolutely made a false equivalency between my knowledge of destiny in a peaceful transition into Heaven as a believer than some obviously twisted logic that requires slaying as many as possible to earn a spot in the Muslim "paradise".

I don't think any sane person would say those idiots from 9/11 were barking up the right tree. Even though my understanding of means to eternal life in Heaven through a belief in Jesus and the radical Muslim concept of paradise both fly under the flag of religion, they are patently not the same.

The point you make about religion being toxic ...sure in some fringe elements it has been, nobody will deny that. Just look at Jim Jones, radical Islam, Heaven's Gate, the list is extensive BUT it's intellectually lazy to say "Oh yeah religion is a pox upon society because it warps peoples' minds" as a whole. Absolutely not. As I said, it's intellectually lazy and factually wrong.

What if I said, "Yeah well atheists have no God which means they have no governing moral code and just look at how many people atheists have wiped out over the years in Communist Dictatorships and other ruthless leaders who were atheists, so therefore atheists all suck and want people dead".

See what I did there? I made some sweeping generalization and lumped all atheists into the same group to then made a broad judgment over their mental status and lot in life. That's what was alleged by Globetrotter's example.

So to tie it all up, the distinction needs to be made clear that religion in and of itself is not mind warping and evil. There are elements of course who go off the rails but to just toss out a dangling swipe at religion and using an extreme example for the only context to justify the attack on religion is just lazy and fundamentally incorrect.
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zippyputt
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
Sincerely happy for you.


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Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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re: 135 days since I was saved by the Grace of God through faith in his son Jesus Christ
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I don't think any sane person would say those idiots from 9/11 were barking up the right tree.

Whether their intentions are good or evil, I don't think anyone who believes in divine intervention, the afterlife, etc., is barking up the right tree. My point is there are people of different faiths who are every bit as certain and adamant in their beliefs as you are in yours. They claim to "feel" God too.

Clearly you're not all right, and I don't see how anyone can trust the religion they were conditioned to believe from birth. The circumstances that you think have lead Muslims astray are exactly the same conditions working in you.

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So to tie it all up, the distinction needs to be made clear that religion in and of itself is not mind warping and evil. There are elements of course who go off the rails but to just toss out a dangling swipe at religion and using an extreme example for the only context to justify the attack on religion is just lazy and fundamentally incorrect.

At its best, religion is...

1. Superfluous. You shouldn't need to believe in divine beings to have empathy for others and to be a productive member of society.

2. A placebo. You should have the emotional stability and mental toughness to endure tough times without resorting to pipe dreams like divine intervention and eternal life.

Christianity teaches people that there's something wrong with them and that the most important thing in their lives (even more so than their families) is an invisible being and a man who supposedly lived two thousand years ago on another continent. Christianity conditions the youngest, most impressionable people in society to center their lives around these things and that life is worthless without a divine influence.

One day in the future people are going to study this shite and think we were every bit as crazy and primitive as Aztec sun worshippers.


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