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re: $123 Billion in a year to Ukraine causing ripple effects

Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:36 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154569 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:36 am to
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Educate yourselves on the Lend/Least Act.


Anyone want to tell this progstain?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12584 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:40 am to
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They will be in debt to the U.S. forever.


Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2844 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:34 am to
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In order to understand this you must understand Russia's end goal here. They have been trying to re-establish their Soviet Union borders for 20 years.


You must have missed the part where Poland was never actually part of the USSR. The USSR had influence there until the end of WW2, but it was never inside the geographical territory of the USSR.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:36 am to
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Why would they invade a member of NATO?

Why did they invade Ukraine?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:40 am to
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The US on all sides knew that meddling in a buffer state like Ukraine would instigate/force Russia to do exactly what Russia has done in Ukraine

Serious series of questions, with a preamble: Russian meddling pre-dates US meddling. In fact, our meddling was very minor in comparison (Russia's puppet literally torpedoed the popular effort to join the EU and unilaterally agreed to a terrible trade deal subjugating Ukraine to Russia economically instead, which was, obviously, highly unpopular and led to the Maidan Revolution by the people of Ukraine).

Would the world have been a better place if Russia used its meddling (and the revolution it created) to take over all of Ukraine in 2014 (instead of just Crimea)?

Would the Western world be better off?

Would the US, specifically, be better off?

Do you honestly believe Russia would have stopped it's neo-imperialism?

Please don't respond with US-based whataboutism. I didn't support the Iraq War and the US disrupted the international order to the tune of trillions of dollars and 6-figures of dead people.
Posted by ob1pimpbobi
College Station
Member since Jul 2022
2975 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:44 am to
I wonder what $123 billion could have done to improve America?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4288 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:53 am to
Trump printed 50 times that, and handed it out to welfare queens and corrupt lobbyists.


So speaking of things we can't afford....
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60133 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:55 am to
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Our national debt is now more than $200K per taxpayer.


31.6 trillion in debt

160 million file taxes

Of those 60% actually have to PAY, meaning about 96 million.

31.6 trillion/96 million = 329,000 per tax payer

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53666 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:57 am to
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$123 Billion in a year to Ukraine causing ripple effects by bogeypro


Tucker Carlson reported last night the total amount of money and military equipment sent to Ukraine from the US is over $200 billion. Tucker said a lot of money and armaments are being back doored to Ukraine......that's why the D.C. LWO Globalists do not want a full audit of the cash and equipment being sent to Ukraine.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:59 am to
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Why did they invade Ukraine?



because the cheating in our election flipped on the green light for them

Who in our govt will stop them from doing anything the want?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38624 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:25 am to
I used to wonder why Dems never seemed to be concerned about the death spiral debt. until I read the Marxist inspired 'Cloward-Piven' strategy of "engineered collapse". No more. The Dems want the USD to tank, destroying the only real obstacle in their way toward a Globalist Egalitarian Fascist Government.

Those who see this being played out and hope to resist it, are in a no win situation, especially given the open Border with tens of millions of immigrants that are essentially unemployable in the private economoy. The Fed will have to assume total control over the allocation of goods and services as the private economy collapses and millions are left in the street. A lot of those immigrants are hardened warriors, and it won't be cake bringing them to heel.

I think this ship has sailed. We'll be in a 'Balkans' scenario within a few years no matter who *wins* any election. The Left has long abandoned respect for Rule of Law/Equal Justice for any law or principle which opposed their ideological (Egalitarian) Fascism, and the Right will soon be forced to embrace the same disrespect as law shows them no respect. East Palestine is a good example. Jan. 6 too, along with the coming 'cancel culture' enabled by Digital Money.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9925 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:32 am to
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Might as well print like mad until the rest of the world figures it out.


They know, we know they know, they know we know they know.

However, they also know we have:




And they know the bankers and politicians aren't afraid to use them to their benefit.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
10876 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:45 am to
The geriatrics in charge give zero shits about whether or not the USA will be stable enough to exist in the near future, it simply isn't their problem.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:50 am to
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We can't afford this war.


Absolutely.

Stop complaining about spending. Spend more. The only way we get out of this shite system is total collapse and the only way to get to total collapse is to spend more. Make the money the elites have worthless.

In the meantime, buy land, guns and ammo.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41742 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:53 am to
Does anyone have a link to a breakdown on how many actual dollars we have sent to Ukraine, and how many dollars in war material we have sent to Ukraine? And another important number is how much are we spending to replace war material that we send? The numbers aren’t black and white.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19063 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:08 am to
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Could this may bring down the US?

No. Our economy is too big for $123B to bring it down. Not saying that I support the money laundering in Ukraine, but our government wastes tax dollars on things that are equally stupid and we're still here.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:12 am to
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j1897



My tax money shouldn't go to a shithole country.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22676 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:22 am to
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Our debt is now greater than our GDP.


Consumers will almost always be denied credit when this happens
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22676 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:26 am to
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Arms built mostly in the 1980's and 90's not to be used again by the USA.


Using them right now.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12020 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:29 am to
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we pull out and lose and war?


Pull out...we were never "in". Just a bunch of bureaucrats wasting our tax dollars, trying to figure out a way to sacrifice our soldiers to the MIC
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