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re: $1019 tariff charge for coffee grinder now that de minimis exemption expires

Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:47 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:47 am to
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here is no US alternative to this product. There is no American espresso industry to protect and onshore.




Yea, absolutely nothing you can buy in America that can replicate a single serve burr grinder from the UK
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:48 am to
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You'll need to explain that. Why isn't "competition" doing that now? Why do we need the tariffs?


What the minimum wage in China? What is the minimum wage in the US?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23015 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:48 am to
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Because American wages can't compete with Chinese slave wages. That's the whole point of this entire thing.


So then the price will never go down. We'll onshore it, pay American wages, and you can choose between a $600 Chinese grinder with $1000 in tariffs or a $1600 American-made one. Winning!
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5384 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:49 am to
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Are you under the impression that the shipping notification is fake? Is the tariff made up?


Are you under the impression that someone with photoshop couldn't create shipping notification that says it was $1,000,000 instead of $1,019.42?

May be true, may not. But I require more than a screen shot with absolutely zero context. How much was the grinder? Is it some industrial level item. Is it only one or more than one? Have they spoken to DHL to see if there was a miscalculation? Has this guy provided the calculation of the tariff? They are supposed to give you one if you want it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89129 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:49 am to
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So then the price will never go down. We'll onshore it, pay American wages, and you can choose between a $600 Chinese grinder with $1000 in tariffs or a $1600 American-made one. Winning!


why does teh American one cost that much again? Got a link to that specific one? Or are you just bleeding like teh bitch that you are?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:49 am to
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Because American wages can't compete with Chinese slave wages.


Right, so the tariffs raise the cost of the Chinese product so we can compete. Got all that. The post I responded to claimed that prices would come back down, and I'm just asking for an explanation of how that's going to happen. Will American wages go back down?
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3366 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:49 am to
Do you really need a coffee grinder? The tariffs are temporary.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:51 am to
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We'll onshore it, pay American wages, and you can choose between a $600 Chinese grinder with $1000 in tariffs or a $1600 American-made one. Winning!


Exactly, more Americans will have jobs and fancy coffee grinders.

Right now, we get the fancy coffee grinder, the UK gets their middleman cut and China gets another worker they can lock inside a factory with suicide nets outside the windows.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:52 am to
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why does teh American one cost that much again? Got a link to that specific one? Or are you just bleeding like teh bitch that you are?


The only espresso grinder I can find made in America is a Zerno which appears to cost $1400 pre-tariff, and their blog post points out that even then their burrs are made in South Korea and would be subject to a 10% tariff. $700 for burrs x0.10 and the final cost is $1470 pre-tax.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:53 am to
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This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 6:10 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32068 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:57 am to
Breville Coffee Grinder
William Sonoma
$159.99
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1168 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:58 am to
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The only 

Sounds like an opportunity for competition then. Some of you guys seem to be incapable of thinking big picture or long term.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23015 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:59 am to
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Breville Coffee Grinder


quote:

Breville products are designed and engineered in Sydney, Australia, but manufactured and assembled in China


Commie cuck!
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17959 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:00 am to
Musk should buy Reddit it and shut it down on day one. Serves no purpose but to be an echo chamber for mentally ill people to need to be on more anxiety medication.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117579 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:01 am to
So, you're one of those people who still makes coffee at home?
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21450 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:06 am to
Here’s something to think about. Who was giving a shite about all of the families and communities that suffered when we shipped their jobs overseas? Did you piss and moan every time a factory was shuttered here?

Rebuilding our manufacturing base is not going to be achieved without pain, so STFU with this dumbass shite.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11357 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:06 am to
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How does that work? What is the mechanism that lowers the price back to pre-tariff levels?


Moving production to the US eliminates the tariff. Allowing US companies to sell more overseas lowers production costs.

I thought this was common knowledge.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9412 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:06 am to
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I mean tariffs make things more expensive until they don’t anymore. If anybody needs that explained to them, right or left, they’re a moron.


I guess I need it explained. This runs counter to everything I read in my old macroeconomics textbook that I dusted off the other day - the whole Competetive Advantage thing. If you get a chance, could you please explain? Thanks in advance!
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1574 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:06 am to
Never once in my life have I said “man, I’d really pay a premium for a coffee grinder. I just gotta have one.”

In other words, go buy some community for a little while and let this shite play out. Jesus
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11357 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:07 am to
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$1019 tariff charge for coffee grinder 


So, we should continue letting countries tariff our items and implementing barriers to entry because a luxury item is now more expensive?

That's a dumb way to run an economy.
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