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What is fair market value of a south Texas trophy hunt?

Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:06 pm
I donated money to my son's school via their annual auction for a trophy hunt in south Texas. I was not provided with the fair market value of the hunt. Any clue who determines this? I am working on my taxes for 2016...ha

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The amount of your contribution that is deductible for federal income tax purposes is limited to the excess of money contributed over the fair market value of goods or services provided by the organization.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:10 pm to
Whitetail deer hunt? I’d think somewhere in $3000-4000 range minimum. Did they give the name of the guide/outfitter service? Some of them have pricing info posted online.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:14 pm to
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Whitetail deer hunt?
yes...

the outfitter is just another parent at the school that has a managed ranch down there.
Posted by Stexas
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:20 pm to
I think it depends greatly on success and size of the trophy. I’d say $2-4k for hunt but trophy fees can get very expensive. Normally around $10k up to $25k the closer you get to giant deer. I know a doe killed on a ranch by an oilfield hand fetched $10k recently and because it was July the assumption was she was pregnant with twins so that cost them another $20k.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:27 pm to
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I know a doe killed on a ranch by an oilfield hand fetched $10k recently and because it was July the assumption was she was pregnant with twins so that cost them another $20k.


1. That much on a DOE? Holy shite

2. How were they hunting whitetails in July since that should be closed season?
Posted by drakeT1217
Member since Jun 2010
761 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:34 pm to
I know several guys that guide around south Texas. I believe a pretty standard low or high fence hunt is gonna run you $2,500-$3,000 for a deer scoring up to about 130 and about $100 an inch for anything above that.
Posted by Stexas
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:44 pm to
It was hit by a truck.
Posted by Hankg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 7:09 am to
Depends on if meals / lodging and size of buck. I took my daughter on hunt in 2016. Lodging/ meals provided for 4 of us. 120 in 10 pt. Does/ hogs/ fishing included. I paid 2k. Middle of road prices for similar fully outfitted hunt would be
Buck up to 129’. $1400
130-139. $2000
140-149. $2750
150-169. $5000
170-189. $6500
190-209. $8000
210-219. $9500
FYI. These prices were straight from outfitter Cody Malone’s ad. He seems to be middle of road. Lots of hunts can be had for less / more $$
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 7:25 am to
And they charged the driver $30k? I find that hard to believe and question the legality of it. Sucks for them if true though!
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:41 am to
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the outfitter is just another parent at the school that has a managed ranch down there.


Ask said parent
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:52 am to
If it is a parent that isn’t a guide. I would say that the hunt had marginal fair market value. Lodging and meals included? I would think you slap down 1250 in the valuation and deduct the amount over. If questioned you can easily defend why it was valued low
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:52 am to
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And they charged the driver $30k?


I'm sure they sued the service company he works for. He was probably checking wells, I doubt he was there on a company retreat.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
5992 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:02 am to
It didn't involve a suit, but could have... They were getting ready to frack, and the roads have a posted 15mph speed limit. She was found with trauma from a vehicle collision still warm and they have a gate log of all vehicle entering the property. It was pretty obvious, it took 2 phone calls and the amount was agreed upon quickly.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
5992 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:07 am to
Not unreasonable...
Texas Parks and Wildlife - release

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Bagged and Tagged
Grayson County game wardens were tipped off about a white-tailed deer that was shot with a firearm in an archery-only county in November 2016. The wardens confronted the individual at his home and questioned him about the big buck. The subject eventually admitted he killed the deer with a pistol, after several shots, and then tagged the deer as being harvested in Fannin County. The deer was seized and several citations were issued. The cases are pending. The deer scored over 177 inches under the Boone & Crockett scoring system, netting a civil restitution value of over $10,000.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:22 pm to
paging millerman...
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

I think it depends greatly on success and size of the trophy. I’d say $2-4k for hunt but trophy fees can get very expensive. Normally around $10k up to $25k the closer you get to giant deer. I know a doe killed on a ranch by an oilfield hand fetched $10k recently and because it was July the assumption was she was pregnant with twins so that cost them another $20k.


This is absolutely ridiculous. I am not saying it's not true, but it is totally ridiculous.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:36 pm to
Browsing Exotic Hunting In Texas page on Facebook should give you a real good idea.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:37 pm to
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What is fair market value of a south Texas trophy hunt?

I'd ask MillerMan
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24937 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:51 pm to
realistic about 1500-2000. For tax reporting purposes, easily $15k
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:07 pm to
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I'd ask MillerMan


I couldn't tell you, we don't sell hunts. But this

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I believe a pretty standard low or high fence hunt is gonna run you $2,500-$3,000 for a deer scoring up to about 130 and about $100 an inch for anything above that.


Sounds about right.
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